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clebertsuconic
That is great work.


If no URL changes. This seems ready to deploy then.


We can keep improving after a first version.

On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 9:50 PM Justin Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I've spent some time working with the Markdown content that Mike generated
> from the dump of the old wiki. Instead of using GitBook which rearranges
> all the pages into a hierarchical structure I kept the same flat structure
> as existed before so that all the old links for any of the main content
> still work. I rearranged the NMS and CMS content a bit as those bits were
> relatively small and some of it was quite stale and confusing in places.  I
> also filled out the content for the various project landing pages. The 5.x
> landing page has basically the same content as the current landing page. I
> kept that the same since it's sufficed for the last several years.
> Everything should be working now except for some older Artemis
> documentation that I haven't uploaded to the staging site.  Although the
> content on the staging site is HTML *almost* all the source content is
> Markdown so it should be easy to edit and style differently if we want.
>
> Give it a look and let me know what you think. The staging website is the
> same:
>
>   http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website
>
> You can take an old link like this:
>
>   http://activemq.apache.org/how-do-i-use-ssl.html
>
> And inject the "activemq-website" bit like this:
>
>   http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/how-do-i-use-ssl.html
>
> And everything should work. I'm sure there's some formatting here and there
> that I've missed but everything should be there in general including all
> the breadcrumbs for the old wiki content.
>
>
> Justin
>
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 7:09 AM Martyn Taylor <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > I think the latest changes to the home page looks goods.  I still prefer
> my
> > strap line of course, but the one currently on there is OK.  I think to
> go
> > live with this the project pages need to be fixed up.  The links
> currently
> > do not work and the feature list is templated out with mock content only.
> > I would just remove the templated feature sections and fix the links (and
> > add a link to the old website from the project pages), then it'd be ready
> > to go live (Providing it complies with Apache project policies as Robbie
> > mentioned above, then I think it'd be good to go with these changes).
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:58 AM Justin Bertram <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > No worries, Mike. I took care of it using the SVG file that Robbie
> > pointed
> > > out. The images now have a "TM" and "Apache" in the smaller versions
> > should
> > > be easier to read.
> > >
> > >
> > > Justin
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 3:29 PM michael.andre.pearce
> > > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > So there is some original svg images in activemq project.These are
> bit
> > > raw
> > > > unfortunately we found.So back when making console we found that it
> > didnt
> > > > work well with backgrounds etc, Martyn created a version with an edge
> > and
> > > > simply we applied a shadow to that. I have the pngs (i think i added
> > > these
> > > > to a dir in the website along with a color pallete varient) but not
> > svgs.
> > > > Martyn may have those.On phone atm. Will try find tomorrow exactly
> > where
> > > we
> > > > put them. Ill also add up anything i can find from console time. We
> had
> > > > some hex backgrounds martyn and i had too we mocked up which were
> nice.
> > > > Everything is png though i have.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy
> smartphone.
> > > > -------- Original message --------From: Robbie Gemmell <
> > > > [hidden email]> Date: 05/03/2019  18:09  (GMT+00:00) To:
> > > > [hidden email] Subject: Re: Website This seems to be where
> > the
> > > > original files went:
> > > > https://github.com/apache/activemq/blob/master/docs/img/I notice
> now I
> > > > can read it that the footer should also mention[ActiveMQ] Artemis in
> > the
> > > > text when listing off terms.RobbieOn Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 17:58, Justin
> > > > Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:>> I assume some original vector
> > > > images exist from which the various> individual images were created,
> > but
> > > I
> > > > don't have those so modifying the> images might be tricky. However, I
> > did
> > > > change the Apache image in the> footer to one that's easier to
> > > discern.>> I
> > > > increased the size of the footer text. The reason it was that small
> to>
> > > > begin with is that is what the footer text is like on the existing
> > > > ActiveMQ> website (although it's even less legible since it blends in
> > > with
> > > > the> background so much).>> Mike, do you have the original images for
> > the
> > > > new ActiveMQ logo (i.e. the> colored hexagons)?>>> Justin>> On Tue,
> Mar
> > > 5,
> > > > 2019 at 9:50 AM Robbie Gemmell <[hidden email]>> wrote:>>
> >
> > > > Thanks Justin, the main things look covered now. Yeah, whimsy is
> > fixed> >
> > > > to monitoring the live version, I was jsut mainly noting it for> >
> > > > comparison and perhaps later reference.> >> > Some other small
> policy +
> > > > style related comments:> > - TM should be added on the logo images.>
> >
> > -
> > > > The top and bottom left images could do with adjusting so that> >
> > > 'Apache'
> > > > is legible.> > - Similarly the footer text is rather tiny, even
> though
> > > the
> > > > footer> > dwarfs it with a lot of free space.> > - Some of the images
> > > > appear heavily down sized and could probably be> > tweaked to improve
> > > their
> > > > legibility and optimise for size a bit. E.g> > the ASF logo used at
> the
> > > > bottom is actually 3495×1417 resolution and> > 150KB.> > - The bottom
> > ASF
> > > > logo text isnt that readable against the footer> > background
> colour.>
> > > >> >
> > > > Robbie> >> > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 17:51, Justin Bertram <
> > > > [hidden email]> wrote:> > >> > > I just updated with some
> changes
> > > to
> > > > comply with the branding policy. I> > > think that's everything. If
> you
> > > see
> > > > anything that's been left out please> > > let me know.> > >> > > I
> > don't
> > > > see a way to make whimsy test the staged version.> > >> > >> > >
> > Justin>
> > > >
> > > > >> > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 9:47 AM Robbie Gemmell <
> > > > [hidden email]>> > > wrote:> > >> > > > I haven't had a
> > chance
> > > > to look at the actual content, but from> > > > skimming the index
> page
> > it
> > > > looks like there are still tweaks needed to> > > > satisfy various
> site
> > > > policies:> > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs> > >
> >>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > At least some of these are checked automatically:> > > >
> > > > https://whimsy.apache.org/site/> > > >> > > > Robbie> > > >> > > >
> On
> > > > Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 14:54, Clebert Suconic <> >
> > [hidden email]
> > > >>
> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > This looks ready! What we need to make
> > it
> > > > official?> > > > >> > > > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 12:53 PM Justin
> > > Bertram <
> > > > [hidden email]>> > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > I added
> some
> > > > content to the landing page and pushed it to the> > staging> > > > >
> >
> > > > website [1]. In general, I tried to highlight what was true for> >
> > > *both*>
> > > > > > > > > brokers but also distinguish them to make things clear for
> > > > users.> > > > I've got> > > > > > other content changes ready to
> push,
> > > but
> > > > I wanted to get this out> > > > first for> > > > > > review &
> > > discussion.>
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > In case anybody wonders, I removed the big "Used
> > By"
> > > > section that> > was> > > > > > supposed to be full of company logos
> for
> > > two
> > > > reasons:> > > > > >   1) I'm not sure we have any concrete data on
> > > that.> >
> > > > > > > >   2) It's not clear to me whether or not we need permission
> to
> > > use>
> > > > > > > another> > > > > > company's logo on our website and make
> claims
> > > > about their use of> > > > ActiveMQ.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > Justin> > > > > >> > > > > > [1]
> > > > http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/> > > > > >> > > > > >
> On
> > > > Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 9:59 AM Andy Taylor <[hidden email]> >
> >>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > > I'd be happy to help with adding
> > > content,
> > > > I remember a hackathon> > was> > > > > > > mentioned at one point.>
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > Any way since it's now in git it would be great if
> > > people
> > > > could> > > > contribute> > > > > > > so we can have a better website
> > > sooner
> > > > rather than later.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Andy> > > > > > >> > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 at 17:19, Martyn Taylor <[hidden email]>> >
> > >
> > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The site is uploaded and links
> > > added.> >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Note there's currently a sync issue with
> EU
> > > > mirrors[1], it's> > > > currently> > > > > > > > being worked on.  To
> > > view
> > > > the changes in the interim, use the> > US> > > > > > > mirror[2].> >
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Cheers> > > > > > > > Martyn> > > > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > 1. https://status.apache.org/> > > > > > > > 2.
> > > > http://activemq.us.apache.org/> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Tue,
> > Nov
> > > > 6, 2018 at 4:58 PM Martyn Taylor <> > [hidden email]>> > > >
> > wrote:>
> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I've went ahead and populated the
> > > > repository, there's a> > GitHub> > > > mirror> > > > > > > > >
> here[1].
> > > > I've also generated the static content and should> > have> > > >
> the> >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > work> > > > > > > > > in progress hosted under a separately
> > > directory
> > > > and a> > message on> > > > the> > > > > > > > > homepage shortly.> >
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Cheers> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 1.
> > > > https://github.com/apache/activemq-website> > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 8:54 PM Bruce Snyder <>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> >
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > >> +1> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> Bruce> > > > > > > >
> > >>>
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 2:26 PM Clebert Suconic <> >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> wrote:> > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > What about this. WE could :> > > > > > > > >>
> >>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > - commit this on git> > > > > > > > >> > - upload a
> > > snapshot
> > > > for review under our web-site.> > > > > > > > >> > On Mon, Oct 22,
> 2018
> > > at
> > > > 8:46 AM Clebert Suconic> > > > > > > > >> > <
> [hidden email]
> > >
> > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > +1000. We had that
> > > > options discussed here a few times.> > > > Having the> > > > > > > >
> > > old> >
> > > > > > > > > > >> > website somewhere with a link is the way to go for
> > the>
> > > >
> > > > > > migration.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > On Mon,
> Oct
> > > 22,
> > > > 2018 at 7:47 AM michael.andre.pearce <> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > [hidden email]> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >>>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> Sounds good to me.> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > >>
> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> -------- Original message --------From: Martyn Taylor
> > <>
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> > [hidden email]> Date: 22/10/2018  12:38
> > > > (GMT+00:00)> > To:> > > > > > > > >> > [hidden email]
> > Subject:
> > > > Re: Website> > > > > > > > >> > >> How about an equivalent message on
> > the
> > > > home page of> > the new> > > > > > > > website,> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>
> > > > directing users to the old site?> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >
> >
> > > >> >
> > > > >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:39 PM Bruce Snyder <> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> wrote:> > > > > > > >
> > >>
> > > >
> > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > Check out the Camel website and the
> message
> > > > that they> > > > posted> > > > > > > > about> > > > > > > > >> >
> their>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > >> > website changes that are underway:> > > > > > > >
> > >>
> > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > https://camel.apache.org/> > > > > >
> > >
> > > >>
> > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > Bruce> > > > > > > > >> > >> >> > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 3:30 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>
> > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 8:38 PM Bruce
> Snyder
> > > <> >
> > > > > > > > > > >> > [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > Fair
> > > points,
> > > > Martyn. I like the idea of a> > > > combination of> > > > > > >
> JIRA> >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > issues> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > plus a> > > > > > > >
> > >> >
> > > > >> > > > list of those issues that is easily visible> > > > somewhere
> > > such>
> > > > > > > > > > as> > > > > > > > >> the> > > > > > > > >> > wiki.> > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > Seeing as how we are
> > moving
> > > > the website around> > > > completely,> > > > > > > I> > > > > > > >
> >>
> > >
> > > > believe we> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > need to include the docs to
> > > support
> > > > the older> > > > versions in> > > > > > > > some> > > > > > > > >> >
> > way.
> > > > So,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > first
> > > > thought that came to mind is a search> > > > capability in> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > order> > > > > > > > >> > for> > > > > > > > >> > >> > users> > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> > >> > > > to find them easier. Another idea, we could also> > > >
> > > keep
> > > > the> > > > > > > old> > > > > > > > >> site> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > intact> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > and available as a sub-domain or
> > URL,
> > > > e.g.,> > > > > > > > >> > 5x.activemq.apache.org,> > > > > > > > >>
> >
> > >>
> > > > > > > activemq.apache.org/5.x, etc. However, the> > > > advantage of
> > a>
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> search> > > > > > > > >> > >> > feature> > > > > > > >
> > >>
> > > >
> > > > >> > > > is> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > that it would be useful
> across
> > > the
> > > > site, not just> > > > for older> > > > > > > > >> > stuff. We> > > >
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > might> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > even be able
> structure
> > > the
> > > > search to allow users> > to> > > > select> > > > > > > a> > > > > >
> > >
> > > >>
> > > > > version of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> >
> > >
> > > > docs that they would like to search. Anyway, just> > > > some> > > >
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > >> thoughts.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> >
> > >
> > > I
> > > > agree that we should try to get the new site> > > > functional> > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ASAP,> > > > > > > > >> > but> > > > > > > > >> > >> > that> > > >
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > should not eliminate the old site entirely. We> > > >
> > > > should not> > > > > > > > >> abandon> > > > > > > > >> > users> > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > older versions.> > > >
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > +1 Bruce.> > > > > > > >
> >>
> > >
> > > >>
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > I had thought that the export of the
> > > current
> > > > site> > into> > > > the> > > > > > > > >> gitbook> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > had>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > all> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the info, but
> > > > perhaps there are missing pieces.  I> > > > like the> > > > > > > >
> > > idea> >
> > > > > > > > > > >> of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > keeping> > > > > > > > >>
> >
> > > >> >
> > > > > the old site running and link to it from the new> > > > site.
> This>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> ensures> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > existing users have
> all
> > > the
> > > > info they need, but> > let's> > > > us move> > > > > > > > >> >
> > forward>
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > with> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > new content.
> > > Perhaps
> > > > we can switch out the exiting> > > > home page> > > > > > > > for> >
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > the new> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > one and add a link to
> old
> > > > website AMQ project page> > > > ("Existing> > > > > > > > >> users>
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > looking> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > for the original
> > > > ActiveMQ website click here.").> > If> > > > we are> > > > > > > >
> > able>
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> to> > > > > > > > >> > get> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > some
> > > > stats on number of accesses to a particular> > page,> > > > we can>
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > use> > > > > > > > >> > that> > > > > > > > >> > >> > info> >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > to prioritise porting older content.> > > > > > > >
> >>
> > >
> > > >>
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > Search, feature also a good idea, but
> > I'm
> > > > not sure> > how> > > > much> > > > > > > > >> effort> > > > > > > >
> >>
> > >
> > > > would> > > > > > > > >> > >> > be> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> involved,
> > > > there is already a search feature in the> > > > gitbook> > > > > > >
> >
> > >>
> > > > document> > > > > > > > >> > >> > (linked> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> to
> > > on
> > > > the project page).> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> >
> > >
> > > > How about we fill in the existing placeholder> > content> > > > and
> > add>
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> links> > > > > > > > >> > to> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > the> >
> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > old sites from each project page (and the
> > home> >
> > > > page)?> > > > We> > > > > > > could> > > > > > > > >> go> > > > > >
> > >
> > > >>
> > > > > live> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > with this?  Then start working
> > through
> > > > the nice to> > > > > > > > >> > haves/criticals.  I> > > > > > > >
> >> >
> > > >>
> > > > > > think once we're live and the code is available,> > the> > > > >
> >
> > >
> > > > community> > > > > > > > >> will> > > > > > > > >> > be> > > > > > >
> >
> > > >> >
> > > > >> > more> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > inclined to report/fixing
> issues.>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > Cheers> > > > > > >
> >
> > > >> >
> > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> Bruce>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > On Fri, Oct 12,
> > 2018
> > > > at 2:44 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > > > > > > >> [hidden email]> > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > Cheers gents, looks like we're all
> set
> > > > with> > the git> > > > > > > repos.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >>
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > Shall we start putting together a ToDo list
> for>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > what> > > > > > > needs> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > >> >
> happen>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > >> > to> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > move to the new
> > > > site?  JIRA perhaps?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >
> >> >
> > > >>
> > > > > > > > Bruce you mentioned a search feature for older> > > >
> content.>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Can> > > > > > > > >> you> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > elaborate>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > on this.  Also, there's the actual
> > content
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> > > 2018
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> > > Bruce
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> > > 2018
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> > >>
> > > >
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Is there a PR for this? It be great to have this PR’d to the repo, then people can collaborate.

> On 16 Mar 2019, at 15:22, Clebert Suconic <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> That is great work.
>
>
> If no URL changes. This seems ready to deploy then.
>
>
> We can keep improving after a first version.
>
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 9:50 PM Justin Bertram <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>> I've spent some time working with the Markdown content that Mike generated
>> from the dump of the old wiki. Instead of using GitBook which rearranges
>> all the pages into a hierarchical structure I kept the same flat structure
>> as existed before so that all the old links for any of the main content
>> still work. I rearranged the NMS and CMS content a bit as those bits were
>> relatively small and some of it was quite stale and confusing in places.  I
>> also filled out the content for the various project landing pages. The 5.x
>> landing page has basically the same content as the current landing page. I
>> kept that the same since it's sufficed for the last several years.
>> Everything should be working now except for some older Artemis
>> documentation that I haven't uploaded to the staging site.  Although the
>> content on the staging site is HTML *almost* all the source content is
>> Markdown so it should be easy to edit and style differently if we want.
>>
>> Give it a look and let me know what you think. The staging website is the
>> same:
>>
>>  http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website
>>
>> You can take an old link like this:
>>
>>  http://activemq.apache.org/how-do-i-use-ssl.html
>>
>> And inject the "activemq-website" bit like this:
>>
>>  http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/how-do-i-use-ssl.html
>>
>> And everything should work. I'm sure there's some formatting here and there
>> that I've missed but everything should be there in general including all
>> the breadcrumbs for the old wiki content.
>>
>>
>> Justin
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 7:09 AM Martyn Taylor <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> I think the latest changes to the home page looks goods.  I still prefer
>> my
>>> strap line of course, but the one currently on there is OK.  I think to
>> go
>>> live with this the project pages need to be fixed up.  The links
>> currently
>>> do not work and the feature list is templated out with mock content only.
>>> I would just remove the templated feature sections and fix the links (and
>>> add a link to the old website from the project pages), then it'd be ready
>>> to go live (Providing it complies with Apache project policies as Robbie
>>> mentioned above, then I think it'd be good to go with these changes).
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:58 AM Justin Bertram <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No worries, Mike. I took care of it using the SVG file that Robbie
>>> pointed
>>>> out. The images now have a "TM" and "Apache" in the smaller versions
>>> should
>>>> be easier to read.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Justin
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 3:29 PM michael.andre.pearce
>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So there is some original svg images in activemq project.These are
>> bit
>>>> raw
>>>>> unfortunately we found.So back when making console we found that it
>>> didnt
>>>>> work well with backgrounds etc, Martyn created a version with an edge
>>> and
>>>>> simply we applied a shadow to that. I have the pngs (i think i added
>>>> these
>>>>> to a dir in the website along with a color pallete varient) but not
>>> svgs.
>>>>> Martyn may have those.On phone atm. Will try find tomorrow exactly
>>> where
>>>> we
>>>>> put them. Ill also add up anything i can find from console time. We
>> had
>>>>> some hex backgrounds martyn and i had too we mocked up which were
>> nice.
>>>>> Everything is png though i have.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy
>> smartphone.
>>>>> -------- Original message --------From: Robbie Gemmell <
>>>>> [hidden email]> Date: 05/03/2019  18:09  (GMT+00:00) To:
>>>>> [hidden email] Subject: Re: Website This seems to be where
>>> the
>>>>> original files went:
>>>>> https://github.com/apache/activemq/blob/master/docs/img/I notice
>> now I
>>>>> can read it that the footer should also mention[ActiveMQ] Artemis in
>>> the
>>>>> text when listing off terms.RobbieOn Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 17:58, Justin
>>>>> Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:>> I assume some original vector
>>>>> images exist from which the various> individual images were created,
>>> but
>>>> I
>>>>> don't have those so modifying the> images might be tricky. However, I
>>> did
>>>>> change the Apache image in the> footer to one that's easier to
>>>> discern.>> I
>>>>> increased the size of the footer text. The reason it was that small
>> to>
>>>>> begin with is that is what the footer text is like on the existing
>>>>> ActiveMQ> website (although it's even less legible since it blends in
>>>> with
>>>>> the> background so much).>> Mike, do you have the original images for
>>> the
>>>>> new ActiveMQ logo (i.e. the> colored hexagons)?>>> Justin>> On Tue,
>> Mar
>>>> 5,
>>>>> 2019 at 9:50 AM Robbie Gemmell <[hidden email]>> wrote:>>
>>>
>>>>> Thanks Justin, the main things look covered now. Yeah, whimsy is
>>> fixed> >
>>>>> to monitoring the live version, I was jsut mainly noting it for> >
>>>>> comparison and perhaps later reference.> >> > Some other small
>> policy +
>>>>> style related comments:> > - TM should be added on the logo images.>
>>>
>>> -
>>>>> The top and bottom left images could do with adjusting so that> >
>>>> 'Apache'
>>>>> is legible.> > - Similarly the footer text is rather tiny, even
>> though
>>>> the
>>>>> footer> > dwarfs it with a lot of free space.> > - Some of the images
>>>>> appear heavily down sized and could probably be> > tweaked to improve
>>>> their
>>>>> legibility and optimise for size a bit. E.g> > the ASF logo used at
>> the
>>>>> bottom is actually 3495×1417 resolution and> > 150KB.> > - The bottom
>>> ASF
>>>>> logo text isnt that readable against the footer> > background
>> colour.>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> Robbie> >> > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 17:51, Justin Bertram <
>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:> > >> > > I just updated with some
>> changes
>>>> to
>>>>> comply with the branding policy. I> > > think that's everything. If
>> you
>>>> see
>>>>> anything that's been left out please> > > let me know.> > >> > > I
>>> don't
>>>>> see a way to make whimsy test the staged version.> > >> > >> > >
>>> Justin>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 9:47 AM Robbie Gemmell <
>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > wrote:> > >> > > > I haven't had a
>>> chance
>>>>> to look at the actual content, but from> > > > skimming the index
>> page
>>> it
>>>>> looks like there are still tweaks needed to> > > > satisfy various
>> site
>>>>> policies:> > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs> > >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> At least some of these are checked automatically:> > > >
>>>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/site/> > > >> > > > Robbie> > > >> > > >
>> On
>>>>> Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 14:54, Clebert Suconic <> >
>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > This looks ready! What we need to make
>>> it
>>>>> official?> > > > >> > > > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 12:53 PM Justin
>>>> Bertram <
>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > I added
>> some
>>>>> content to the landing page and pushed it to the> > staging> > > > >
>>>
>>>>> website [1]. In general, I tried to highlight what was true for> >
>>>> *both*>
>>>>>>>>>> brokers but also distinguish them to make things clear for
>>>>> users.> > > > I've got> > > > > > other content changes ready to
>> push,
>>>> but
>>>>> I wanted to get this out> > > > first for> > > > > > review &
>>>> discussion.>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In case anybody wonders, I removed the big "Used
>>> By"
>>>>> section that> > was> > > > > > supposed to be full of company logos
>> for
>>>> two
>>>>> reasons:> > > > > >   1) I'm not sure we have any concrete data on
>>>> that.> >
>>>>>>>>>  2) It's not clear to me whether or not we need permission
>> to
>>>> use>
>>>>>>>> another> > > > > > company's logo on our website and make
>> claims
>>>>> about their use of> > > > ActiveMQ.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >
>>>>> Justin> > > > > >> > > > > > [1]
>>>>> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/> > > > > >> > > > > >
>> On
>>>>> Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 9:59 AM Andy Taylor <[hidden email]> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > > I'd be happy to help with adding
>>>> content,
>>>>> I remember a hackathon> > was> > > > > > > mentioned at one point.>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any way since it's now in git it would be great if
>>>> people
>>>>> could> > > > contribute> > > > > > > so we can have a better website
>>>> sooner
>>>>> rather than later.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Andy> > > > > > >> > >
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 at 17:19, Martyn Taylor <[hidden email]>> >
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The site is uploaded and links
>>>> added.> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note there's currently a sync issue with
>> EU
>>>>> mirrors[1], it's> > > > currently> > > > > > > > being worked on.  To
>>>> view
>>>>> the changes in the interim, use the> > US> > > > > > > mirror[2].> >
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers> > > > > > > > Martyn> > > > > > > >> >
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. https://status.apache.org/> > > > > > > > 2.
>>>>> http://activemq.us.apache.org/> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Tue,
>>> Nov
>>>>> 6, 2018 at 4:58 PM Martyn Taylor <> > [hidden email]>> > > >
>>> wrote:>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've went ahead and populated the
>>>>> repository, there's a> > GitHub> > > > mirror> > > > > > > > >
>> here[1].
>>>>> I've also generated the static content and should> > have> > > >
>> the> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> work> > > > > > > > > in progress hosted under a separately
>>>> directory
>>>>> and a> > message on> > > > the> > > > > > > > > homepage shortly.> >
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 1.
>>>>> https://github.com/apache/activemq-website> > > > > > > > >> > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 8:54 PM Bruce Snyder <>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +1> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> Bruce> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 2:26 PM Clebert Suconic <> >
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> wrote:> > > > >
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about this. WE could :> > > > > > > > >>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - commit this on git> > > > > > > > >> > - upload a
>>>> snapshot
>>>>> for review under our web-site.> > > > > > > > >> > On Mon, Oct 22,
>> 2018
>>>> at
>>>>> 8:46 AM Clebert Suconic> > > > > > > > >> > <
>> [hidden email]
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > +1000. We had that
>>>>> options discussed here a few times.> > > > Having the> > > > > > > >
>>>> old> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website somewhere with a link is the way to go for
>>> the>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> migration.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > On Mon,
>> Oct
>>>> 22,
>>>>> 2018 at 7:47 AM michael.andre.pearce <> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds good to me.> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------- Original message --------From: Martyn Taylor
>>> <>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]> Date: 22/10/2018  12:38
>>>>> (GMT+00:00)> > To:> > > > > > > > >> > [hidden email]
>>> Subject:
>>>>> Re: Website> > > > > > > > >> > >> How about an equivalent message on
>>> the
>>>>> home page of> > the new> > > > > > > > website,> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>
>>>>> directing users to the old site?> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:39 PM Bruce Snyder <> > > > > > > > >>
>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> wrote:> > > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Check out the Camel website and the
>> message
>>>>> that they> > > > posted> > > > > > > > about> > > > > > > > >> >
>> their>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website changes that are underway:> > > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://camel.apache.org/> > > > > >
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > > > > > > >> > >> >> > >
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 3:30 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > > >
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 8:38 PM Bruce
>> Snyder
>>>> <> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > Fair
>>>> points,
>>>>> Martyn. I like the idea of a> > > > combination of> > > > > > >
>> JIRA> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> issues> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > plus a> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> list of those issues that is easily visible> > > > somewhere
>>>> such>
>>>>>>>>>>> as> > > > > > > > >> the> > > > > > > > >> > wiki.> > >
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Seeing as how we are
>>> moving
>>>>> the website around> > > > completely,> > > > > > > I> > > > > > > >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> believe we> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > need to include the docs to
>>>> support
>>>>> the older> > > > versions in> > > > > > > > some> > > > > > > > >> >
>>> way.
>>>>> So,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > first
>>>>> thought that came to mind is a search> > > > capability in> > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>> order> > > > > > > > >> > for> > > > > > > > >> > >> > users> > > >
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to find them easier. Another idea, we could also> > > >
>>>> keep
>>>>> the> > > > > > > old> > > > > > > > >> site> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
>>>>> intact> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > and available as a sub-domain or
>>> URL,
>>>>> e.g.,> > > > > > > > >> > 5x.activemq.apache.org,> > > > > > > > >>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> activemq.apache.org/5.x, etc. However, the> > > > advantage of
>>> a>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> search> > > > > > > > >> > >> > feature> > > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> is> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > that it would be useful
>> across
>>>> the
>>>>> site, not just> > > > for older> > > > > > > > >> > stuff. We> > > >
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> might> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > even be able
>> structure
>>>> the
>>>>> search to allow users> > to> > > > select> > > > > > > a> > > > > >
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> version of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> docs that they would like to search. Anyway, just> > > > some> > > >
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thoughts.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I
>>>>> agree that we should try to get the new site> > > > functional> > >
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ASAP,> > > > > > > > >> > but> > > > > > > > >> > >> > that> > > >
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should not eliminate the old site entirely. We> > > >
>>>>> should not> > > > > > > > >> abandon> > > > > > > > >> > users> > >
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > older versions.> > > >
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 Bruce.> > > > > > > >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had thought that the export of the
>>>> current
>>>>> site> > into> > > > the> > > > > > > > >> gitbook> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>> had>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the info, but
>>>>> perhaps there are missing pieces.  I> > > > like the> > > > > > > >
>>>> idea> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > keeping> > > > > > > > >>
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> the old site running and link to it from the new> > > > site.
>> This>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ensures> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > existing users have
>> all
>>>> the
>>>>> info they need, but> > let's> > > > us move> > > > > > > > >> >
>>> forward>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > new content.
>>>> Perhaps
>>>>> we can switch out the exiting> > > > home page> > > > > > > > for> >
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the new> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > one and add a link to
>> old
>>>>> website AMQ project page> > > > ("Existing> > > > > > > > >> users>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > for the original
>>>>> ActiveMQ website click here.").> > If> > > > we are> > > > > > > >
>>> able>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to> > > > > > > > >> > get> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
>>> some
>>>>> stats on number of accesses to a particular> > page,> > > > we can>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> use> > > > > > > > >> > that> > > > > > > > >> > >> > info> >
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to prioritise porting older content.> > > > > > > >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Search, feature also a good idea, but
>>> I'm
>>>>> not sure> > how> > > > much> > > > > > > > >> effort> > > > > > > >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> would> > > > > > > > >> > >> > be> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> involved,
>>>>> there is already a search feature in the> > > > gitbook> > > > > > >
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> document> > > > > > > > >> > >> > (linked> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> to
>>>> on
>>>>> the project page).> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> How about we fill in the existing placeholder> > content> > > > and
>>> add>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> links> > > > > > > > >> > to> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
>>>> the> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old sites from each project page (and the
>>> home> >
>>>>> page)?> > > > We> > > > > > > could> > > > > > > > >> go> > > > > >
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> live> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > with this?  Then start working
>>> through
>>>>> the nice to> > > > > > > > >> > haves/criticals.  I> > > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> think once we're live and the code is available,> > the> > > > >
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> community> > > > > > > > >> will> > > > > > > > >> > be> > > > > > >
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> more> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > inclined to report/fixing
>> issues.>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers> > > > > > >
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> Bruce>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12,
>>> 2018
>>>>> at 2:44 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > > > > > > >> [hidden email]> > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers gents, looks like we're all
>> set
>>>>> with> > the git> > > > > > > repos.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shall we start putting together a ToDo list
>> for>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> what> > > > > > > needs> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > >> >
>> happen>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > move to the new
>>>>> site?  JIRA perhaps?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bruce you mentioned a search feature for older> > > >
>> content.>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can> > > > > > > > >> you> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>>>> elaborate>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on this.  Also, there's the actual
>>> content
>>>>> for> > the> > > > pages,> > > > > > > > key> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
>>>>> features,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > users etc... Perhaps we can
>>> all
>>>>> contribute to> > > > these?  I> > > > > > > > could> > > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>> take> > > > > > > > >> > >> > care> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > of>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Artemis side of things, if people with
>> more>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> experience> > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > >> > NMS,> > > >
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> CMS> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > and> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5.x could come up with some content for the> > > > project home>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> pages?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree with Michael in that it'd be good to> > get> > > > the
>> new>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> site> > > > > > > > >> > running> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
>>>>
>>>>> even> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > if it's not 100% perfect then
>>>>> iteratively> > improve> > > > on it.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:56 AM Clebert> > Suconic
>>> <>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > >
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How to delete one now ?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> >
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:55 PM Bruce Snyder <>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Whoops, I just created one as well:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-website.git> > > > >
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > >
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9,
>>>> 2018
>>>>> at 8:49 AM Clebert> > Suconic> > > > <> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>>>>
>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
>> wrote:>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> New
>>>> repo
>>>>> created:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-www.git> > > > > > >
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:47 AM Clebert> > > >
>>>> Suconic>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Robbie Gemmel pointed me to> > > > > > > > >>
>>> https://gitbox.apache.org/
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm trying to create one now:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
>>>
>>> On
>>>>> Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:36 AM Clebert> > > > Suconic> > > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:> > > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's for
>>>> Bruce
>>>>> Snyder then...> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct
>> 9,
>>>> 2018
>>>>> at 10:29 AM> > Justin> > > > Bertram> > > > > > > <> > > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's a "Create a new Git> > repository"> > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>> option> > > > > > > > on> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>> https://selfserve.apache.org/.  I> > > > clicked it> > > > > > > >
>>> and>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logged> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > in,> > > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> but> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > apparently> > >
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's restricted to ASF members and> >
>>> PMC>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> chairs.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>> Justin> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:24 AM> > Clebert> > > > >
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Suconic> > > > > > > > <> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >
>>>
>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I create an Infra JIRA for this:> > > > > > > >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17124> > > > > > > > >>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:49 AM> > > > Clebert>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Suconic> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > <
>>>>> [hidden email]>> > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked
>> infra
>>>> and
>>>>> no reponse.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know any procedure> >
>> on> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> creating> > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > >> > repo at> > > > >
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I did ask infra about something> > > > what to> > > >
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> do..> > > > > > > > >> > but so> > > > > > > > >> > >> > far> > > >
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> no> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > response. I> >
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know they are busy.. so if> >
>>>> anyone>
>>>>>>>> here> > > > > > > > knows> > > > > > > > >> a> > > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>> better> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > way> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
>>> to>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handle> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> this....> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> On
>>>> Mon,
>>>>> Oct 8, 2018 at 9:14 AM> > > > Clebert> > > > > > > > >> Suconic> > >
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[hidden email]>> >
>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just initiated a thread at> > > >
>>> apache>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> infra> > > > > > > > >> > list,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
>>>>> asking> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > for> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> guidance on> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > how
>> to
>>>>> setup things.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will keep it posted here.> > > >
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:01> >
>> AM>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Christopher> > > > > > > > >> > Shannon> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <> > [hidden email]> > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
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>>>
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>
> --
> Clebert Suconic

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Forgot to say looks good! great stuff!!

> On 16 Mar 2019, at 22:41, Michael André Pearce <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Is there a PR for this? It be great to have this PR’d to the repo, then people can collaborate.
>
>> On 16 Mar 2019, at 15:22, Clebert Suconic <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> That is great work.
>>
>>
>> If no URL changes. This seems ready to deploy then.
>>
>>
>> We can keep improving after a first version.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 9:50 PM Justin Bertram <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've spent some time working with the Markdown content that Mike generated
>>> from the dump of the old wiki. Instead of using GitBook which rearranges
>>> all the pages into a hierarchical structure I kept the same flat structure
>>> as existed before so that all the old links for any of the main content
>>> still work. I rearranged the NMS and CMS content a bit as those bits were
>>> relatively small and some of it was quite stale and confusing in places.  I
>>> also filled out the content for the various project landing pages. The 5.x
>>> landing page has basically the same content as the current landing page. I
>>> kept that the same since it's sufficed for the last several years.
>>> Everything should be working now except for some older Artemis
>>> documentation that I haven't uploaded to the staging site.  Although the
>>> content on the staging site is HTML *almost* all the source content is
>>> Markdown so it should be easy to edit and style differently if we want.
>>>
>>> Give it a look and let me know what you think. The staging website is the
>>> same:
>>>
>>> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website
>>>
>>> You can take an old link like this:
>>>
>>> http://activemq.apache.org/how-do-i-use-ssl.html
>>>
>>> And inject the "activemq-website" bit like this:
>>>
>>> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/how-do-i-use-ssl.html
>>>
>>> And everything should work. I'm sure there's some formatting here and there
>>> that I've missed but everything should be there in general including all
>>> the breadcrumbs for the old wiki content.
>>>
>>>
>>> Justin
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 7:09 AM Martyn Taylor <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think the latest changes to the home page looks goods.  I still prefer
>>> my
>>>> strap line of course, but the one currently on there is OK.  I think to
>>> go
>>>> live with this the project pages need to be fixed up.  The links
>>> currently
>>>> do not work and the feature list is templated out with mock content only.
>>>> I would just remove the templated feature sections and fix the links (and
>>>> add a link to the old website from the project pages), then it'd be ready
>>>> to go live (Providing it complies with Apache project policies as Robbie
>>>> mentioned above, then I think it'd be good to go with these changes).
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:58 AM Justin Bertram <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No worries, Mike. I took care of it using the SVG file that Robbie
>>>> pointed
>>>>> out. The images now have a "TM" and "Apache" in the smaller versions
>>>> should
>>>>> be easier to read.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Justin
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 3:29 PM michael.andre.pearce
>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So there is some original svg images in activemq project.These are
>>> bit
>>>>> raw
>>>>>> unfortunately we found.So back when making console we found that it
>>>> didnt
>>>>>> work well with backgrounds etc, Martyn created a version with an edge
>>>> and
>>>>>> simply we applied a shadow to that. I have the pngs (i think i added
>>>>> these
>>>>>> to a dir in the website along with a color pallete varient) but not
>>>> svgs.
>>>>>> Martyn may have those.On phone atm. Will try find tomorrow exactly
>>>> where
>>>>> we
>>>>>> put them. Ill also add up anything i can find from console time. We
>>> had
>>>>>> some hex backgrounds martyn and i had too we mocked up which were
>>> nice.
>>>>>> Everything is png though i have.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy
>>> smartphone.
>>>>>> -------- Original message --------From: Robbie Gemmell <
>>>>>> [hidden email]> Date: 05/03/2019  18:09  (GMT+00:00) To:
>>>>>> [hidden email] Subject: Re: Website This seems to be where
>>>> the
>>>>>> original files went:
>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/activemq/blob/master/docs/img/I notice
>>> now I
>>>>>> can read it that the footer should also mention[ActiveMQ] Artemis in
>>>> the
>>>>>> text when listing off terms.RobbieOn Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 17:58, Justin
>>>>>> Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:>> I assume some original vector
>>>>>> images exist from which the various> individual images were created,
>>>> but
>>>>> I
>>>>>> don't have those so modifying the> images might be tricky. However, I
>>>> did
>>>>>> change the Apache image in the> footer to one that's easier to
>>>>> discern.>> I
>>>>>> increased the size of the footer text. The reason it was that small
>>> to>
>>>>>> begin with is that is what the footer text is like on the existing
>>>>>> ActiveMQ> website (although it's even less legible since it blends in
>>>>> with
>>>>>> the> background so much).>> Mike, do you have the original images for
>>>> the
>>>>>> new ActiveMQ logo (i.e. the> colored hexagons)?>>> Justin>> On Tue,
>>> Mar
>>>>> 5,
>>>>>> 2019 at 9:50 AM Robbie Gemmell <[hidden email]>> wrote:>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Justin, the main things look covered now. Yeah, whimsy is
>>>> fixed> >
>>>>>> to monitoring the live version, I was jsut mainly noting it for> >
>>>>>> comparison and perhaps later reference.> >> > Some other small
>>> policy +
>>>>>> style related comments:> > - TM should be added on the logo images.>
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>>>> The top and bottom left images could do with adjusting so that> >
>>>>> 'Apache'
>>>>>> is legible.> > - Similarly the footer text is rather tiny, even
>>> though
>>>>> the
>>>>>> footer> > dwarfs it with a lot of free space.> > - Some of the images
>>>>>> appear heavily down sized and could probably be> > tweaked to improve
>>>>> their
>>>>>> legibility and optimise for size a bit. E.g> > the ASF logo used at
>>> the
>>>>>> bottom is actually 3495×1417 resolution and> > 150KB.> > - The bottom
>>>> ASF
>>>>>> logo text isnt that readable against the footer> > background
>>> colour.>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robbie> >> > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 17:51, Justin Bertram <
>>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:> > >> > > I just updated with some
>>> changes
>>>>> to
>>>>>> comply with the branding policy. I> > > think that's everything. If
>>> you
>>>>> see
>>>>>> anything that's been left out please> > > let me know.> > >> > > I
>>>> don't
>>>>>> see a way to make whimsy test the staged version.> > >> > >> > >
>>>> Justin>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 9:47 AM Robbie Gemmell <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > wrote:> > >> > > > I haven't had a
>>>> chance
>>>>>> to look at the actual content, but from> > > > skimming the index
>>> page
>>>> it
>>>>>> looks like there are still tweaks needed to> > > > satisfy various
>>> site
>>>>>> policies:> > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs> > >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At least some of these are checked automatically:> > > >
>>>>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/site/> > > >> > > > Robbie> > > >> > > >
>>> On
>>>>>> Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 14:54, Clebert Suconic <> >
>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > This looks ready! What we need to make
>>>> it
>>>>>> official?> > > > >> > > > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 12:53 PM Justin
>>>>> Bertram <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > I added
>>> some
>>>>>> content to the landing page and pushed it to the> > staging> > > > >
>>>>
>>>>>> website [1]. In general, I tried to highlight what was true for> >
>>>>> *both*>
>>>>>>>>>>> brokers but also distinguish them to make things clear for
>>>>>> users.> > > > I've got> > > > > > other content changes ready to
>>> push,
>>>>> but
>>>>>> I wanted to get this out> > > > first for> > > > > > review &
>>>>> discussion.>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In case anybody wonders, I removed the big "Used
>>>> By"
>>>>>> section that> > was> > > > > > supposed to be full of company logos
>>> for
>>>>> two
>>>>>> reasons:> > > > > >   1) I'm not sure we have any concrete data on
>>>>> that.> >
>>>>>>>>>> 2) It's not clear to me whether or not we need permission
>>> to
>>>>> use>
>>>>>>>>> another> > > > > > company's logo on our website and make
>>> claims
>>>>>> about their use of> > > > ActiveMQ.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >
>>>>>> Justin> > > > > >> > > > > > [1]
>>>>>> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/> > > > > >> > > > > >
>>> On
>>>>>> Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 9:59 AM Andy Taylor <[hidden email]> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > > I'd be happy to help with adding
>>>>> content,
>>>>>> I remember a hackathon> > was> > > > > > > mentioned at one point.>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any way since it's now in git it would be great if
>>>>> people
>>>>>> could> > > > contribute> > > > > > > so we can have a better website
>>>>> sooner
>>>>>> rather than later.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Andy> > > > > > >> > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 at 17:19, Martyn Taylor <[hidden email]>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The site is uploaded and links
>>>>> added.> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note there's currently a sync issue with
>>> EU
>>>>>> mirrors[1], it's> > > > currently> > > > > > > > being worked on.  To
>>>>> view
>>>>>> the changes in the interim, use the> > US> > > > > > > mirror[2].> >
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers> > > > > > > > Martyn> > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. https://status.apache.org/> > > > > > > > 2.
>>>>>> http://activemq.us.apache.org/> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Tue,
>>>> Nov
>>>>>> 6, 2018 at 4:58 PM Martyn Taylor <> > [hidden email]>> > > >
>>>> wrote:>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've went ahead and populated the
>>>>>> repository, there's a> > GitHub> > > > mirror> > > > > > > > >
>>> here[1].
>>>>>> I've also generated the static content and should> > have> > > >
>>> the> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> work> > > > > > > > > in progress hosted under a separately
>>>>> directory
>>>>>> and a> > message on> > > > the> > > > > > > > > homepage shortly.> >
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 1.
>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/activemq-website> > > > > > > > >> > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 8:54 PM Bruce Snyder <>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> +1> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> Bruce> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 2:26 PM Clebert Suconic <> >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> wrote:> > > > >
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about this. WE could :> > > > > > > > >>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - commit this on git> > > > > > > > >> > - upload a
>>>>> snapshot
>>>>>> for review under our web-site.> > > > > > > > >> > On Mon, Oct 22,
>>> 2018
>>>>> at
>>>>>> 8:46 AM Clebert Suconic> > > > > > > > >> > <
>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > +1000. We had that
>>>>>> options discussed here a few times.> > > > Having the> > > > > > > >
>>>>> old> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website somewhere with a link is the way to go for
>>>> the>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> migration.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > On Mon,
>>> Oct
>>>>> 22,
>>>>>> 2018 at 7:47 AM michael.andre.pearce <> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds good to me.> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------- Original message --------From: Martyn Taylor
>>>> <>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]> Date: 22/10/2018  12:38
>>>>>> (GMT+00:00)> > To:> > > > > > > > >> > [hidden email]
>>>> Subject:
>>>>>> Re: Website> > > > > > > > >> > >> How about an equivalent message on
>>>> the
>>>>>> home page of> > the new> > > > > > > > website,> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>
>>>>>> directing users to the old site?> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:39 PM Bruce Snyder <> > > > > > > > >>
>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> wrote:> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Check out the Camel website and the
>>> message
>>>>>> that they> > > > posted> > > > > > > > about> > > > > > > > >> >
>>> their>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website changes that are underway:> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://camel.apache.org/> > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > > > > > > >> > >> >> > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 3:30 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > > >
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 8:38 PM Bruce
>>> Snyder
>>>>> <> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > Fair
>>>>> points,
>>>>>> Martyn. I like the idea of a> > > > combination of> > > > > > >
>>> JIRA> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > plus a> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> list of those issues that is easily visible> > > > somewhere
>>>>> such>
>>>>>>>>>>>> as> > > > > > > > >> the> > > > > > > > >> > wiki.> > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Seeing as how we are
>>>> moving
>>>>>> the website around> > > > completely,> > > > > > > I> > > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> believe we> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > need to include the docs to
>>>>> support
>>>>>> the older> > > > versions in> > > > > > > > some> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>> way.
>>>>>> So,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > first
>>>>>> thought that came to mind is a search> > > > capability in> > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> order> > > > > > > > >> > for> > > > > > > > >> > >> > users> > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to find them easier. Another idea, we could also> > > >
>>>>> keep
>>>>>> the> > > > > > > old> > > > > > > > >> site> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
>>>>>> intact> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > and available as a sub-domain or
>>>> URL,
>>>>>> e.g.,> > > > > > > > >> > 5x.activemq.apache.org,> > > > > > > > >>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> activemq.apache.org/5.x, etc. However, the> > > > advantage of
>>>> a>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search> > > > > > > > >> > >> > feature> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> is> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > that it would be useful
>>> across
>>>>> the
>>>>>> site, not just> > > > for older> > > > > > > > >> > stuff. We> > > >
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > even be able
>>> structure
>>>>> the
>>>>>> search to allow users> > to> > > > select> > > > > > > a> > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> version of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> docs that they would like to search. Anyway, just> > > > some> > > >
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thoughts.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I
>>>>>> agree that we should try to get the new site> > > > functional> > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ASAP,> > > > > > > > >> > but> > > > > > > > >> > >> > that> > > >
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should not eliminate the old site entirely. We> > > >
>>>>>> should not> > > > > > > > >> abandon> > > > > > > > >> > users> > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > older versions.> > > >
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 Bruce.> > > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had thought that the export of the
>>>>> current
>>>>>> site> > into> > > > the> > > > > > > > >> gitbook> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>> had>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the info, but
>>>>>> perhaps there are missing pieces.  I> > > > like the> > > > > > > >
>>>>> idea> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > keeping> > > > > > > > >>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the old site running and link to it from the new> > > > site.
>>> This>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ensures> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > existing users have
>>> all
>>>>> the
>>>>>> info they need, but> > let's> > > > us move> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>> forward>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > new content.
>>>>> Perhaps
>>>>>> we can switch out the exiting> > > > home page> > > > > > > > for> >
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the new> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > one and add a link to
>>> old
>>>>>> website AMQ project page> > > > ("Existing> > > > > > > > >> users>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > for the original
>>>>>> ActiveMQ website click here.").> > If> > > > we are> > > > > > > >
>>>> able>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to> > > > > > > > >> > get> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
>>>> some
>>>>>> stats on number of accesses to a particular> > page,> > > > we can>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> use> > > > > > > > >> > that> > > > > > > > >> > >> > info> >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to prioritise porting older content.> > > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Search, feature also a good idea, but
>>>> I'm
>>>>>> not sure> > how> > > > much> > > > > > > > >> effort> > > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> would> > > > > > > > >> > >> > be> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
>>> involved,
>>>>>> there is already a search feature in the> > > > gitbook> > > > > > >
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> document> > > > > > > > >> > >> > (linked> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
>>> to
>>>>> on
>>>>>> the project page).> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> How about we fill in the existing placeholder> > content> > > > and
>>>> add>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links> > > > > > > > >> > to> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
>>>>> the> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old sites from each project page (and the
>>>> home> >
>>>>>> page)?> > > > We> > > > > > > could> > > > > > > > >> go> > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> live> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > with this?  Then start working
>>>> through
>>>>>> the nice to> > > > > > > > >> > haves/criticals.  I> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> think once we're live and the code is available,> > the> > > > >
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> community> > > > > > > > >> will> > > > > > > > >> > be> > > > > > >
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> more> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > inclined to report/fixing
>>> issues.>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers> > > > > > >
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> Bruce>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12,
>>>> 2018
>>>>>> at 2:44 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > > > > > > >> [hidden email]> > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers gents, looks like we're all
>>> set
>>>>>> with> > the git> > > > > > > repos.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shall we start putting together a ToDo list
>>> for>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> what> > > > > > > needs> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > >> >
>>> happen>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > move to the new
>>>>>> site?  JIRA perhaps?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bruce you mentioned a search feature for older> > > >
>>> content.>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can> > > > > > > > >> you> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>>>>> elaborate>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on this.  Also, there's the actual
>>>> content
>>>>>> for> > the> > > > pages,> > > > > > > > key> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
>>>>>> features,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > users etc... Perhaps we can
>>>> all
>>>>>> contribute to> > > > these?  I> > > > > > > > could> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> take> > > > > > > > >> > >> > care> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > of>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Artemis side of things, if people with
>>> more>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> experience> > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > >> > NMS,> > > >
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> CMS> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > and> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 5.x could come up with some content for the> > > > project home>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> pages?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree with Michael in that it'd be good to> > get> > > > the
>>> new>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> site> > > > > > > > >> > running> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
>>>>>
>>>>>> even> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > if it's not 100% perfect then
>>>>>> iteratively> > improve> > > > on it.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:56 AM Clebert> > Suconic
>>>> <>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > >
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How to delete one now ?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:55 PM Bruce Snyder <>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whoops, I just created one as well:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-website.git> > > > >
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9,
>>>>> 2018
>>>>>> at 8:49 AM Clebert> > Suconic> > > > <> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
>>> wrote:>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> New
>>>>> repo
>>>>>> created:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-www.git> > > > > > >
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:47 AM Clebert> > > >
>>>>> Suconic>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robbie Gemmel pointed me to> > > > > > > > >>
>>>> https://gitbox.apache.org/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm trying to create one now:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
>>>>
>>>> On
>>>>>> Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:36 AM Clebert> > > > Suconic> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's for
>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>> Snyder then...> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct
>>> 9,
>>>>> 2018
>>>>>> at 10:29 AM> > Justin> > > > Bertram> > > > > > > <> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's a "Create a new Git> > repository"> > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> option> > > > > > > > on> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>> https://selfserve.apache.org/.  I> > > > clicked it> > > > > > > >
>>>> and>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logged> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > in,> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> but> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > apparently> > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's restricted to ASF members and> >
>>>> PMC>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> chairs.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> over> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > time.> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd love to here> > your> > > > > > > >
>>> thoughts,>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The code is here:> > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/michaelandrepearce/activemq-website/> > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And a> > demohttps://> >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> michaelandrepearce.github.io/activemq-website> > > > > > > > >> > >>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my> > Samsung> >
>>>>>
>>>>>> Galaxy> > > > > > > > >> > smartphone.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> > > > > > > > >>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perl -e 'print> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> );'> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> --
>> Clebert Suconic
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A few bits we need to work on:

I think we need to update this, it was extracted from current site, but is out of date.
http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/team/

Seems we are missing cms download page
http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/projects/cms/download/

On the contact side, there is now a slack channel this should be added, and have the same visibility as IRC (could be added later, but just to note)


With the hero sections on the logo side, where drop shadow has been added to the letters in MQ for Apache Active MQ, it looks a bit odd just having MQ drop shadowed, would it be easy to drop shadow it all.




> On 16 Mar 2019, at 22:50, Michael André Pearce <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Forgot to say looks good! great stuff!!
>
>> On 16 Mar 2019, at 22:41, Michael André Pearce <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Is there a PR for this? It be great to have this PR’d to the repo, then people can collaborate.
>>
>>> On 16 Mar 2019, at 15:22, Clebert Suconic <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> That is great work.
>>>
>>>
>>> If no URL changes. This seems ready to deploy then.
>>>
>>>
>>> We can keep improving after a first version.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 9:50 PM Justin Bertram <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've spent some time working with the Markdown content that Mike generated
>>>> from the dump of the old wiki. Instead of using GitBook which rearranges
>>>> all the pages into a hierarchical structure I kept the same flat structure
>>>> as existed before so that all the old links for any of the main content
>>>> still work. I rearranged the NMS and CMS content a bit as those bits were
>>>> relatively small and some of it was quite stale and confusing in places.  I
>>>> also filled out the content for the various project landing pages. The 5.x
>>>> landing page has basically the same content as the current landing page. I
>>>> kept that the same since it's sufficed for the last several years.
>>>> Everything should be working now except for some older Artemis
>>>> documentation that I haven't uploaded to the staging site.  Although the
>>>> content on the staging site is HTML *almost* all the source content is
>>>> Markdown so it should be easy to edit and style differently if we want.
>>>>
>>>> Give it a look and let me know what you think. The staging website is the
>>>> same:
>>>>
>>>> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website
>>>>
>>>> You can take an old link like this:
>>>>
>>>> http://activemq.apache.org/how-do-i-use-ssl.html
>>>>
>>>> And inject the "activemq-website" bit like this:
>>>>
>>>> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/how-do-i-use-ssl.html
>>>>
>>>> And everything should work. I'm sure there's some formatting here and there
>>>> that I've missed but everything should be there in general including all
>>>> the breadcrumbs for the old wiki content.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Justin
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 7:09 AM Martyn Taylor <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think the latest changes to the home page looks goods.  I still prefer
>>>> my
>>>>> strap line of course, but the one currently on there is OK.  I think to
>>>> go
>>>>> live with this the project pages need to be fixed up.  The links
>>>> currently
>>>>> do not work and the feature list is templated out with mock content only.
>>>>> I would just remove the templated feature sections and fix the links (and
>>>>> add a link to the old website from the project pages), then it'd be ready
>>>>> to go live (Providing it complies with Apache project policies as Robbie
>>>>> mentioned above, then I think it'd be good to go with these changes).
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:58 AM Justin Bertram <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> No worries, Mike. I took care of it using the SVG file that Robbie
>>>>> pointed
>>>>>> out. The images now have a "TM" and "Apache" in the smaller versions
>>>>> should
>>>>>> be easier to read.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Justin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 3:29 PM michael.andre.pearce
>>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So there is some original svg images in activemq project.These are
>>>> bit
>>>>>> raw
>>>>>>> unfortunately we found.So back when making console we found that it
>>>>> didnt
>>>>>>> work well with backgrounds etc, Martyn created a version with an edge
>>>>> and
>>>>>>> simply we applied a shadow to that. I have the pngs (i think i added
>>>>>> these
>>>>>>> to a dir in the website along with a color pallete varient) but not
>>>>> svgs.
>>>>>>> Martyn may have those.On phone atm. Will try find tomorrow exactly
>>>>> where
>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> put them. Ill also add up anything i can find from console time. We
>>>> had
>>>>>>> some hex backgrounds martyn and i had too we mocked up which were
>>>> nice.
>>>>>>> Everything is png though i have.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy
>>>> smartphone.
>>>>>>> -------- Original message --------From: Robbie Gemmell <
>>>>>>> [hidden email]> Date: 05/03/2019  18:09  (GMT+00:00) To:
>>>>>>> [hidden email] Subject: Re: Website This seems to be where
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> original files went:
>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/activemq/blob/master/docs/img/I notice
>>>> now I
>>>>>>> can read it that the footer should also mention[ActiveMQ] Artemis in
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> text when listing off terms.RobbieOn Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 17:58, Justin
>>>>>>> Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:>> I assume some original vector
>>>>>>> images exist from which the various> individual images were created,
>>>>> but
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> don't have those so modifying the> images might be tricky. However, I
>>>>> did
>>>>>>> change the Apache image in the> footer to one that's easier to
>>>>>> discern.>> I
>>>>>>> increased the size of the footer text. The reason it was that small
>>>> to>
>>>>>>> begin with is that is what the footer text is like on the existing
>>>>>>> ActiveMQ> website (although it's even less legible since it blends in
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> the> background so much).>> Mike, do you have the original images for
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> new ActiveMQ logo (i.e. the> colored hexagons)?>>> Justin>> On Tue,
>>>> Mar
>>>>>> 5,
>>>>>>> 2019 at 9:50 AM Robbie Gemmell <[hidden email]>> wrote:>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Justin, the main things look covered now. Yeah, whimsy is
>>>>> fixed> >
>>>>>>> to monitoring the live version, I was jsut mainly noting it for> >
>>>>>>> comparison and perhaps later reference.> >> > Some other small
>>>> policy +
>>>>>>> style related comments:> > - TM should be added on the logo images.>
>>>>>
>>>>> -
>>>>>>> The top and bottom left images could do with adjusting so that> >
>>>>>> 'Apache'
>>>>>>> is legible.> > - Similarly the footer text is rather tiny, even
>>>> though
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> footer> > dwarfs it with a lot of free space.> > - Some of the images
>>>>>>> appear heavily down sized and could probably be> > tweaked to improve
>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> legibility and optimise for size a bit. E.g> > the ASF logo used at
>>>> the
>>>>>>> bottom is actually 3495×1417 resolution and> > 150KB.> > - The bottom
>>>>> ASF
>>>>>>> logo text isnt that readable against the footer> > background
>>>> colour.>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robbie> >> > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 17:51, Justin Bertram <
>>>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:> > >> > > I just updated with some
>>>> changes
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> comply with the branding policy. I> > > think that's everything. If
>>>> you
>>>>>> see
>>>>>>> anything that's been left out please> > > let me know.> > >> > > I
>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> see a way to make whimsy test the staged version.> > >> > >> > >
>>>>> Justin>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 9:47 AM Robbie Gemmell <
>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > wrote:> > >> > > > I haven't had a
>>>>> chance
>>>>>>> to look at the actual content, but from> > > > skimming the index
>>>> page
>>>>> it
>>>>>>> looks like there are still tweaks needed to> > > > satisfy various
>>>> site
>>>>>>> policies:> > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs> > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At least some of these are checked automatically:> > > >
>>>>>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/site/> > > >> > > > Robbie> > > >> > > >
>>>> On
>>>>>>> Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 14:54, Clebert Suconic <> >
>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > This looks ready! What we need to make
>>>>> it
>>>>>>> official?> > > > >> > > > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 12:53 PM Justin
>>>>>> Bertram <
>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > I added
>>>> some
>>>>>>> content to the landing page and pushed it to the> > staging> > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>> website [1]. In general, I tried to highlight what was true for> >
>>>>>> *both*>
>>>>>>>>>>>> brokers but also distinguish them to make things clear for
>>>>>>> users.> > > > I've got> > > > > > other content changes ready to
>>>> push,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> I wanted to get this out> > > > first for> > > > > > review &
>>>>>> discussion.>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In case anybody wonders, I removed the big "Used
>>>>> By"
>>>>>>> section that> > was> > > > > > supposed to be full of company logos
>>>> for
>>>>>> two
>>>>>>> reasons:> > > > > >   1) I'm not sure we have any concrete data on
>>>>>> that.> >
>>>>>>>>>>> 2) It's not clear to me whether or not we need permission
>>>> to
>>>>>> use>
>>>>>>>>>> another> > > > > > company's logo on our website and make
>>>> claims
>>>>>>> about their use of> > > > ActiveMQ.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >
>>>>>>> Justin> > > > > >> > > > > > [1]
>>>>>>> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/> > > > > >> > > > > >
>>>> On
>>>>>>> Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 9:59 AM Andy Taylor <[hidden email]> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > > I'd be happy to help with adding
>>>>>> content,
>>>>>>> I remember a hackathon> > was> > > > > > > mentioned at one point.>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any way since it's now in git it would be great if
>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> could> > > > contribute> > > > > > > so we can have a better website
>>>>>> sooner
>>>>>>> rather than later.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Andy> > > > > > >> > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 at 17:19, Martyn Taylor <[hidden email]>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The site is uploaded and links
>>>>>> added.> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note there's currently a sync issue with
>>>> EU
>>>>>>> mirrors[1], it's> > > > currently> > > > > > > > being worked on.  To
>>>>>> view
>>>>>>> the changes in the interim, use the> > US> > > > > > > mirror[2].> >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers> > > > > > > > Martyn> > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. https://status.apache.org/> > > > > > > > 2.
>>>>>>> http://activemq.us.apache.org/> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Tue,
>>>>> Nov
>>>>>>> 6, 2018 at 4:58 PM Martyn Taylor <> > [hidden email]>> > > >
>>>>> wrote:>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've went ahead and populated the
>>>>>>> repository, there's a> > GitHub> > > > mirror> > > > > > > > >
>>>> here[1].
>>>>>>> I've also generated the static content and should> > have> > > >
>>>> the> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> work> > > > > > > > > in progress hosted under a separately
>>>>>> directory
>>>>>>> and a> > message on> > > > the> > > > > > > > > homepage shortly.> >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 1.
>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/activemq-website> > > > > > > > >> > > > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 8:54 PM Bruce Snyder <>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> +1> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> Bruce> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 2:26 PM Clebert Suconic <> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> wrote:> > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about this. WE could :> > > > > > > > >>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - commit this on git> > > > > > > > >> > - upload a
>>>>>> snapshot
>>>>>>> for review under our web-site.> > > > > > > > >> > On Mon, Oct 22,
>>>> 2018
>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> 8:46 AM Clebert Suconic> > > > > > > > >> > <
>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > +1000. We had that
>>>>>>> options discussed here a few times.> > > > Having the> > > > > > > >
>>>>>> old> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website somewhere with a link is the way to go for
>>>>> the>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> migration.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > On Mon,
>>>> Oct
>>>>>> 22,
>>>>>>> 2018 at 7:47 AM michael.andre.pearce <> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds good to me.> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------- Original message --------From: Martyn Taylor
>>>>> <>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]> Date: 22/10/2018  12:38
>>>>>>> (GMT+00:00)> > To:> > > > > > > > >> > [hidden email]
>>>>> Subject:
>>>>>>> Re: Website> > > > > > > > >> > >> How about an equivalent message on
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> home page of> > the new> > > > > > > > website,> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> directing users to the old site?> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:39 PM Bruce Snyder <> > > > > > > > >>
>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> wrote:> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Check out the Camel website and the
>>>> message
>>>>>>> that they> > > > posted> > > > > > > > about> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>> their>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website changes that are underway:> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://camel.apache.org/> > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > > > > > > >> > >> >> > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 3:30 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 8:38 PM Bruce
>>>> Snyder
>>>>>> <> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > Fair
>>>>>> points,
>>>>>>> Martyn. I like the idea of a> > > > combination of> > > > > > >
>>>> JIRA> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > plus a> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> list of those issues that is easily visible> > > > somewhere
>>>>>> such>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as> > > > > > > > >> the> > > > > > > > >> > wiki.> > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Seeing as how we are
>>>>> moving
>>>>>>> the website around> > > > completely,> > > > > > > I> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> believe we> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > need to include the docs to
>>>>>> support
>>>>>>> the older> > > > versions in> > > > > > > > some> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>> way.
>>>>>>> So,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > first
>>>>>>> thought that came to mind is a search> > > > capability in> > > > > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> order> > > > > > > > >> > for> > > > > > > > >> > >> > users> > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to find them easier. Another idea, we could also> > > >
>>>>>> keep
>>>>>>> the> > > > > > > old> > > > > > > > >> site> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
>>>>>>> intact> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > and available as a sub-domain or
>>>>> URL,
>>>>>>> e.g.,> > > > > > > > >> > 5x.activemq.apache.org,> > > > > > > > >>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> activemq.apache.org/5.x, etc. However, the> > > > advantage of
>>>>> a>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search> > > > > > > > >> > >> > feature> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> is> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > that it would be useful
>>>> across
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> site, not just> > > > for older> > > > > > > > >> > stuff. We> > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > even be able
>>>> structure
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> search to allow users> > to> > > > select> > > > > > > a> > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> version of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> docs that they would like to search. Anyway, just> > > > some> > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thoughts.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> agree that we should try to get the new site> > > > functional> > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ASAP,> > > > > > > > >> > but> > > > > > > > >> > >> > that> > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should not eliminate the old site entirely. We> > > >
>>>>>>> should not> > > > > > > > >> abandon> > > > > > > > >> > users> > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > older versions.> > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 Bruce.> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had thought that the export of the
>>>>>> current
>>>>>>> site> > into> > > > the> > > > > > > > >> gitbook> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>> had>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the info, but
>>>>>>> perhaps there are missing pieces.  I> > > > like the> > > > > > > >
>>>>>> idea> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > keeping> > > > > > > > >>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the old site running and link to it from the new> > > > site.
>>>> This>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ensures> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > existing users have
>>>> all
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> info they need, but> > let's> > > > us move> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>> forward>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > new content.
>>>>>> Perhaps
>>>>>>> we can switch out the exiting> > > > home page> > > > > > > > for> >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the new> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > one and add a link to
>>>> old
>>>>>>> website AMQ project page> > > > ("Existing> > > > > > > > >> users>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > for the original
>>>>>>> ActiveMQ website click here.").> > If> > > > we are> > > > > > > >
>>>>> able>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to> > > > > > > > >> > get> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
>>>>> some
>>>>>>> stats on number of accesses to a particular> > page,> > > > we can>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> use> > > > > > > > >> > that> > > > > > > > >> > >> > info> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to prioritise porting older content.> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Search, feature also a good idea, but
>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> not sure> > how> > > > much> > > > > > > > >> effort> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> would> > > > > > > > >> > >> > be> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
>>>> involved,
>>>>>>> there is already a search feature in the> > > > gitbook> > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> document> > > > > > > > >> > >> > (linked> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
>>>> to
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> the project page).> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How about we fill in the existing placeholder> > content> > > > and
>>>>> add>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links> > > > > > > > >> > to> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
>>>>>> the> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old sites from each project page (and the
>>>>> home> >
>>>>>>> page)?> > > > We> > > > > > > could> > > > > > > > >> go> > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> live> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > with this?  Then start working
>>>>> through
>>>>>>> the nice to> > > > > > > > >> > haves/criticals.  I> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> think once we're live and the code is available,> > the> > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> community> > > > > > > > >> will> > > > > > > > >> > be> > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> more> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > inclined to report/fixing
>>>> issues.>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers> > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> Bruce>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12,
>>>>> 2018
>>>>>>> at 2:44 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > > > > > > >> [hidden email]> > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers gents, looks like we're all
>>>> set
>>>>>>> with> > the git> > > > > > > repos.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shall we start putting together a ToDo list
>>>> for>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> what> > > > > > > needs> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>> happen>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > move to the new
>>>>>>> site?  JIRA perhaps?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce you mentioned a search feature for older> > > >
>>>> content.>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can> > > > > > > > >> you> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>>>>>> elaborate>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on this.  Also, there's the actual
>>>>> content
>>>>>>> for> > the> > > > pages,> > > > > > > > key> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
>>>>>>> features,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > users etc... Perhaps we can
>>>>> all
>>>>>>> contribute to> > > > these?  I> > > > > > > > could> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> take> > > > > > > > >> > >> > care> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > of>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Artemis side of things, if people with
>>>> more>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> experience> > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > >> > NMS,> > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CMS> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > and> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 5.x could come up with some content for the> > > > project home>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pages?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I agree with Michael in that it'd be good to> > get> > > > the
>>>> new>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> site> > > > > > > > >> > running> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> even> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > if it's not 100% perfect then
>>>>>>> iteratively> > improve> > > > on it.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:56 AM Clebert> > Suconic
>>>>> <>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How to delete one now ?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:55 PM Bruce Snyder <>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Whoops, I just created one as well:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-website.git> > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9,
>>>>>> 2018
>>>>>>> at 8:49 AM Clebert> > Suconic> > > > <> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
>>>> wrote:>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> New
>>>>>> repo
>>>>>>> created:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-www.git> > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:47 AM Clebert> > > >
>>>>>> Suconic>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[hidden email]>
>>>>> wrote:>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robbie Gemmel pointed me to> > > > > > > > >>
>>>>> https://gitbox.apache.org/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm trying to create one now:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>> On
>>>>>>> Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:36 AM Clebert> > > > Suconic> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's for
>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>> Snyder then...> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct
>>>> 9,
>>>>>> 2018
>>>>>>> at 10:29 AM> > Justin> > > > Bertram> > > > > > > <> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's a "Create a new Git> > repository"> > > > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> option> > > > > > > > on> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>> https://selfserve.apache.org/.  I> > > > clicked it> > > > > > > >
>>>>> and>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logged> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > in,> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > apparently> > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's restricted to ASF members and> >
>>>>> PMC>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> chairs.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Justin> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:24 AM> > Clebert> > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Suconic> > > > > > > > <> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I create an Infra JIRA for this:> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17124> > > > > > > > >>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:49 AM> > > > Clebert>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Suconic> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > <
>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked
>>>> infra
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> no reponse.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know any procedure> >
>>>> on> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> creating> > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > >> > repo at> > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did ask infra about something> > > > what to> > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> do..> > > > > > > > >> > but so> > > > > > > > >> > >> > far> > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > response. I> >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know they are busy.. so if> >
>>>>>> anyone>
>>>>>>>>>> here> > > > > > > > knows> > > > > > > > >> a> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> better> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > way> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
>>>>> to>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handle> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this....> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> On
>>>>>> Mon,
>>>>>>> Oct 8, 2018 at 9:14 AM> > > > Clebert> > > > > > > > >> Suconic> > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[hidden email]>> >
>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just initiated a thread at> > > >
>>>>> apache>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> infra> > > > > > > > >> > list,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
>>>>>>> asking> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > for> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> guidance on> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > how
>>>> to
>>>>>>> setup things.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will keep it posted here.> > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:01> >
>>>> AM>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher> > > > > > > > >> > Shannon> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <> > [hidden email]> > > >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for getting the> >
>>>>>>> website> > > > > > > > discussion> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>>>>> restarted.
>>>>>>> I> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > think it> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will be> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> quite beneficial if we can> > get> > > > the> > > > > > > new> > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> website> > > > > > > > >> > >> > live> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > have> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> more> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > clear> > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information on there such> >
>>>> as>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> what> > > > > > > > Artemis> > > > > > > > >> > is,> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> etc.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at> > 9:13
>>>> AM>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Clebert> > > > > > > > >> > Suconic <> > > > > > > > >> > >>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will handle
>>>> it
>>>>>>> next> > week.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at> > 5:09> > > > PM> > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bruce> > > > > > > > >> > Snyder <> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Clebert,> > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be very> > helpful> > > > if you> > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> could> > > > > > > > >> > create> > > > > > > > >> > >> > a> > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > repo> > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for it> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> get> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the> > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source code moved into> > > >
>>>>>>> there.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at> > > > 7:58 AM> > > > > > > > >>
>>>>> Clebert>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suconic> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > <> > > > > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Bruce: Anything I> > can> > > > do to> > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> expedie> > > > > > > > >> > this?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > or> > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > are> > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>> care
>>>>>>> of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
>>>> private
>>>>>>> repo?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On
>>>> Wed,
>>>>>> Oct
>>>>>>> 3, 2018> > at> > > > 1:52 AM> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
>>>>>>> michael.andre.pearce> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <> > > > [hidden email]> > > > > > > > >> .invalid>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>> you
>>>>>>> noted> > because> > > > its> > > > > > > using> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>> jekyll
>>>>>>> i> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > could> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
>>>> use>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> github> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> pages.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One option is you> > > > could host> > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > >>
>>>>>> on> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asf> > > > > > > > >> > >> > git,> > > > > > > > >>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> have> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> github> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> clone>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we do with code and> > then> > > >
>>>>>> use> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> github> > > > > > > > >> > pages,> > > > > > > > >> > >>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> simply> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > asking infra> > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to have> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sub domain point to> > the> > > > github> > > > > > > > >> pages.> >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > sure> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> if> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > thats> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allowed or not,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> but> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>> if
>>>>>>> it is probably> > > > easiest.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from
>>>> my> >
>>>>>>> Samsung> > > > Galaxy> > > > > > > > >> > smartphone.> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------- Original> > > >
>>>>> message>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------From:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > Bruce> > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Snyder> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
>>>> <>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > Date:> > > > > > > > >> > 02/10/2018>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 21:11> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>> (GMT+00:00)> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > To:> > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject:> > > > > > > > >> Re:> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
>>>>> Website>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great job,> >
>>>>>>> MIchael! I> > > > like> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > >> look> > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > this> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>> site.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's certainly> >
>>>>>> work>
>>>>>>>>>> to be> > > > > > > > done> > > > > > > > >> > as you> > > > > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > so
>>>> I>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't think> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> take the place of> > the> > > > current> > > > > > > > >> site> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 100%> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > just> > > > > > > > >> > >>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> yet. I> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > agree> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> does> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> not> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > need
>>>> to
>>>>> be
>>>>>>> perfect,> > > > but we> > > > > > > need> > > > > > > > >> to> > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > an> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> easy> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > way to> > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find the> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information we know> > > > exists> > > > > > >
>>>> via>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>>>> functionality> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> something.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The first
>>>>>> action> >
>>>>>>>>> should be to> > > > > > > > >> move> > > > > > > > >> > the> > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > into> > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an ASF> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> git repo so> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>> that>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone
>>>>> has> >
>>>>>>> access to> > > > it,> > > > > > > > >> allowing> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allow> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us to deploy> > straight> > > >
>>>>>> from> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> the> > > > > > > > >> git> > > > > > > > >> > repo> > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Has
>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>> recently> > > > > > > > investigated> > > > > > > > >> > how to> > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repo to the> > sub-domain> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> the> > > > > > > > >> ASF?> > > > > > > > >> > If> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> not,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > I> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
>>>> will>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dig into> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> it.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 2,> > 2018 at> > > > 8:40>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> AM> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > michael.andre.pearce> > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <> > > >
>>>>>>> [hidden email]> > > > > > > > >> > .invalid>> > > > > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,> > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just wanted to> > get> > > > the> > > > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ball> > > > > > > > >> > rolling> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > again> >
>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>> and>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> home> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pages for each> > > >
>>>>> project.>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>> thoughts,>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The code is here:> > > > > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://github.com/michaelandrepearce/activemq-website/> > > > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And a> > demohttps://> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> michaelandrepearce.github.io/activemq-website> > > > > > > > >> > >>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michael> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my> > Samsung> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Galaxy> > > > > > > > >> > smartphone.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> > > > > > > > >>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perl -e 'print> > > > > > > > >> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> );'> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Clebert Suconic
>>
>
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Re: Website

jbertram
I agree we need up-to-date information for
http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/team/. Bruce, where's the
official data on who is a PMC member and who is a committer?

I fixed the CMS download issue.

What are the details about the Slack channel? This is the first I've heard
of it.

I added the drop-shadow on the "MQ" because on the ActiveMQ 5 project page
the background behind the image is the same color as the "MQ" and therefore
it was disappearing. I added the drop-shadow to make it visible. It
wouldn't be hard to add a drop-shadow to the whole thing, but I didn't
think the drop-shadow on just the "MQ" looked any stranger than it being a
different color in the first place.

One thing I'm not really clear on yet is how modifications from the
activemq-website repo will be propagated to the actual website. I've read
about some Apache buildbot thing that might help here, but I don't know
much about it yet. Anybody else have any clue on how that's supposed to
work?

BTW, I'm working up a PR right now, but I wanted to get as much of it right
as I could before I sent it.


Justin

On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 6:00 PM Michael André Pearce
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> A few bits we need to work on:
>
> I think we need to update this, it was extracted from current site, but is
> out of date.
> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/team/
>
> Seems we are missing cms download page
> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/projects/cms/download/
>
> On the contact side, there is now a slack channel this should be added,
> and have the same visibility as IRC (could be added later, but just to note)
>
>
> With the hero sections on the logo side, where drop shadow has been added
> to the letters in MQ for Apache Active MQ, it looks a bit odd just having
> MQ drop shadowed, would it be easy to drop shadow it all.
>
>
>
>
> > On 16 Mar 2019, at 22:50, Michael André Pearce <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Forgot to say looks good! great stuff!!
> >
> >> On 16 Mar 2019, at 22:41, Michael André Pearce <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Is there a PR for this? It be great to have this PR’d to the repo, then
> people can collaborate.
> >>
> >>> On 16 Mar 2019, at 15:22, Clebert Suconic <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> That is great work.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> If no URL changes. This seems ready to deploy then.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> We can keep improving after a first version.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 9:50 PM Justin Bertram <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I've spent some time working with the Markdown content that Mike
> generated
> >>>> from the dump of the old wiki. Instead of using GitBook which
> rearranges
> >>>> all the pages into a hierarchical structure I kept the same flat
> structure
> >>>> as existed before so that all the old links for any of the main
> content
> >>>> still work. I rearranged the NMS and CMS content a bit as those bits
> were
> >>>> relatively small and some of it was quite stale and confusing in
> places.  I
> >>>> also filled out the content for the various project landing pages.
> The 5.x
> >>>> landing page has basically the same content as the current landing
> page. I
> >>>> kept that the same since it's sufficed for the last several years.
> >>>> Everything should be working now except for some older Artemis
> >>>> documentation that I haven't uploaded to the staging site.  Although
> the
> >>>> content on the staging site is HTML *almost* all the source content is
> >>>> Markdown so it should be easy to edit and style differently if we
> want.
> >>>>
> >>>> Give it a look and let me know what you think. The staging website is
> the
> >>>> same:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website
> >>>>
> >>>> You can take an old link like this:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://activemq.apache.org/how-do-i-use-ssl.html
> >>>>
> >>>> And inject the "activemq-website" bit like this:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/how-do-i-use-ssl.html
> >>>>
> >>>> And everything should work. I'm sure there's some formatting here and
> there
> >>>> that I've missed but everything should be there in general including
> all
> >>>> the breadcrumbs for the old wiki content.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Justin
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 7:09 AM Martyn Taylor <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I think the latest changes to the home page looks goods.  I still
> prefer
> >>>> my
> >>>>> strap line of course, but the one currently on there is OK.  I think
> to
> >>>> go
> >>>>> live with this the project pages need to be fixed up.  The links
> >>>> currently
> >>>>> do not work and the feature list is templated out with mock content
> only.
> >>>>> I would just remove the templated feature sections and fix the links
> (and
> >>>>> add a link to the old website from the project pages), then it'd be
> ready
> >>>>> to go live (Providing it complies with Apache project policies as
> Robbie
> >>>>> mentioned above, then I think it'd be good to go with these changes).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:58 AM Justin Bertram <[hidden email]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> No worries, Mike. I took care of it using the SVG file that Robbie
> >>>>> pointed
> >>>>>> out. The images now have a "TM" and "Apache" in the smaller versions
> >>>>> should
> >>>>>> be easier to read.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Justin
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 3:29 PM michael.andre.pearce
> >>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So there is some original svg images in activemq project.These are
> >>>> bit
> >>>>>> raw
> >>>>>>> unfortunately we found.So back when making console we found that it
> >>>>> didnt
> >>>>>>> work well with backgrounds etc, Martyn created a version with an
> edge
> >>>>> and
> >>>>>>> simply we applied a shadow to that. I have the pngs (i think i
> added
> >>>>>> these
> >>>>>>> to a dir in the website along with a color pallete varient) but not
> >>>>> svgs.
> >>>>>>> Martyn may have those.On phone atm. Will try find tomorrow exactly
> >>>>> where
> >>>>>> we
> >>>>>>> put them. Ill also add up anything i can find from console time. We
> >>>> had
> >>>>>>> some hex backgrounds martyn and i had too we mocked up which were
> >>>> nice.
> >>>>>>> Everything is png though i have.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy
> >>>> smartphone.
> >>>>>>> -------- Original message --------From: Robbie Gemmell <
> >>>>>>> [hidden email]> Date: 05/03/2019  18:09  (GMT+00:00) To:
> >>>>>>> [hidden email] Subject: Re: Website This seems to be
> where
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>> original files went:
> >>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/activemq/blob/master/docs/img/I notice
> >>>> now I
> >>>>>>> can read it that the footer should also mention[ActiveMQ] Artemis
> in
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>> text when listing off terms.RobbieOn Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 17:58,
> Justin
> >>>>>>> Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:>> I assume some original
> vector
> >>>>>>> images exist from which the various> individual images were
> created,
> >>>>> but
> >>>>>> I
> >>>>>>> don't have those so modifying the> images might be tricky.
> However, I
> >>>>> did
> >>>>>>> change the Apache image in the> footer to one that's easier to
> >>>>>> discern.>> I
> >>>>>>> increased the size of the footer text. The reason it was that small
> >>>> to>
> >>>>>>> begin with is that is what the footer text is like on the existing
> >>>>>>> ActiveMQ> website (although it's even less legible since it blends
> in
> >>>>>> with
> >>>>>>> the> background so much).>> Mike, do you have the original images
> for
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>> new ActiveMQ logo (i.e. the> colored hexagons)?>>> Justin>> On Tue,
> >>>> Mar
> >>>>>> 5,
> >>>>>>> 2019 at 9:50 AM Robbie Gemmell <[hidden email]>>
> wrote:>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks Justin, the main things look covered now. Yeah, whimsy is
> >>>>> fixed> >
> >>>>>>> to monitoring the live version, I was jsut mainly noting it for> >
> >>>>>>> comparison and perhaps later reference.> >> > Some other small
> >>>> policy +
> >>>>>>> style related comments:> > - TM should be added on the logo
> images.>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>>> The top and bottom left images could do with adjusting so that> >
> >>>>>> 'Apache'
> >>>>>>> is legible.> > - Similarly the footer text is rather tiny, even
> >>>> though
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> footer> > dwarfs it with a lot of free space.> > - Some of the
> images
> >>>>>>> appear heavily down sized and could probably be> > tweaked to
> improve
> >>>>>> their
> >>>>>>> legibility and optimise for size a bit. E.g> > the ASF logo used at
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>> bottom is actually 3495×1417 resolution and> > 150KB.> > - The
> bottom
> >>>>> ASF
> >>>>>>> logo text isnt that readable against the footer> > background
> >>>> colour.>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Robbie> >> > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 17:51, Justin Bertram <
> >>>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:> > >> > > I just updated with some
> >>>> changes
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> comply with the branding policy. I> > > think that's everything. If
> >>>> you
> >>>>>> see
> >>>>>>> anything that's been left out please> > > let me know.> > >> > > I
> >>>>> don't
> >>>>>>> see a way to make whimsy test the staged version.> > >> > >> > >
> >>>>> Justin>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 9:47 AM Robbie Gemmell <
> >>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > wrote:> > >> > > > I haven't had a
> >>>>> chance
> >>>>>>> to look at the actual content, but from> > > > skimming the index
> >>>> page
> >>>>> it
> >>>>>>> looks like there are still tweaks needed to> > > > satisfy various
> >>>> site
> >>>>>>> policies:> > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs> > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> At least some of these are checked automatically:> > > >
> >>>>>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/site/> > > >> > > > Robbie> > > >> > > >
> >>>> On
> >>>>>>> Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 14:54, Clebert Suconic <> >
> >>>>> [hidden email]
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > This looks ready! What we need to make
> >>>>> it
> >>>>>>> official?> > > > >> > > > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 12:53 PM Justin
> >>>>>> Bertram <
> >>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > I added
> >>>> some
> >>>>>>> content to the landing page and pushed it to the> > staging> > > >
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> website [1]. In general, I tried to highlight what was true for> >
> >>>>>> *both*>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> brokers but also distinguish them to make things clear for
> >>>>>>> users.> > > > I've got> > > > > > other content changes ready to
> >>>> push,
> >>>>>> but
> >>>>>>> I wanted to get this out> > > > first for> > > > > > review &
> >>>>>> discussion.>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In case anybody wonders, I removed the big "Used
> >>>>> By"
> >>>>>>> section that> > was> > > > > > supposed to be full of company logos
> >>>> for
> >>>>>> two
> >>>>>>> reasons:> > > > > >   1) I'm not sure we have any concrete data on
> >>>>>> that.> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> 2) It's not clear to me whether or not we need permission
> >>>> to
> >>>>>> use>
> >>>>>>>>>> another> > > > > > company's logo on our website and make
> >>>> claims
> >>>>>>> about their use of> > > > ActiveMQ.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >
> >
> >>>>>>> Justin> > > > > >> > > > > > [1]
> >>>>>>> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/> > > > > >> > > > > >
> >>>> On
> >>>>>>> Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 9:59 AM Andy Taylor <[hidden email]> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > > I'd be happy to help with adding
> >>>>>> content,
> >>>>>>> I remember a hackathon> > was> > > > > > > mentioned at one point.>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any way since it's now in git it would be great if
> >>>>>> people
> >>>>>>> could> > > > contribute> > > > > > > so we can have a better
> website
> >>>>>> sooner
> >>>>>>> rather than later.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Andy> > > > > > >> > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 at 17:19, Martyn Taylor <[hidden email]>> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The site is uploaded and links
> >>>>>> added.> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note there's currently a sync issue with
> >>>> EU
> >>>>>>> mirrors[1], it's> > > > currently> > > > > > > > being worked on.
> To
> >>>>>> view
> >>>>>>> the changes in the interim, use the> > US> > > > > > > mirror[2].>
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers> > > > > > > > Martyn> > > > > > > >> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 1. https://status.apache.org/> > > > > > > > 2.
> >>>>>>> http://activemq.us.apache.org/> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On
> Tue,
> >>>>> Nov
> >>>>>>> 6, 2018 at 4:58 PM Martyn Taylor <> > [hidden email]>> > > >
> >>>>> wrote:>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've went ahead and populated the
> >>>>>>> repository, there's a> > GitHub> > > > mirror> > > > > > > > >
> >>>> here[1].
> >>>>>>> I've also generated the static content and should> > have> > > >
> >>>> the> >
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> work> > > > > > > > > in progress hosted under a separately
> >>>>>> directory
> >>>>>>> and a> > message on> > > > the> > > > > > > > > homepage shortly.>
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 1.
> >>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/activemq-website> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 8:54 PM Bruce Snyder <>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >>
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> +1> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> Bruce> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 2:26 PM Clebert Suconic <> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> wrote:> > > > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about this. WE could :> > > > > > > > >>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - commit this on git> > > > > > > > >> > - upload a
> >>>>>> snapshot
> >>>>>>> for review under our web-site.> > > > > > > > >> > On Mon, Oct 22,
> >>>> 2018
> >>>>>> at
> >>>>>>> 8:46 AM Clebert Suconic> > > > > > > > >> > <
> >>>> [hidden email]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > +1000. We had
> that
> >>>>>>> options discussed here a few times.> > > > Having the> > > > > > >
> >
> >>>>>> old> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website somewhere with a link is the way to go for
> >>>>> the>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> migration.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > On Mon,
> >>>> Oct
> >>>>>> 22,
> >>>>>>> 2018 at 7:47 AM michael.andre.pearce <> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds good to me.> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------- Original message --------From: Martyn Taylor
> >>>>> <>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]> Date: 22/10/2018  12:38
> >>>>>>> (GMT+00:00)> > To:> > > > > > > > >> > [hidden email]
> >>>>> Subject:
> >>>>>>> Re: Website> > > > > > > > >> > >> How about an equivalent message
> on
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>> home page of> > the new> > > > > > > > website,> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> directing users to the old site?> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:39 PM Bruce Snyder <> > > > > > > > >>
> >>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> wrote:> > > > > >
> > >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Check out the Camel website and the
> >>>> message
> >>>>>>> that they> > > > posted> > > > > > > > about> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>>> their>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website changes that are underway:> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://camel.apache.org/> > > > > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > > > > > > >> > >> >> > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 3:30 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 8:38 PM Bruce
> >>>> Snyder
> >>>>>> <> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > Fair
> >>>>>> points,
> >>>>>>> Martyn. I like the idea of a> > > > combination of> > > > > > >
> >>>> JIRA> >
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > plus a> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> list of those issues that is easily visible> > > > somewhere
> >>>>>> such>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> as> > > > > > > > >> the> > > > > > > > >> > wiki.> > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Seeing as how we are
> >>>>> moving
> >>>>>>> the website around> > > > completely,> > > > > > > I> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> believe we> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > need to include the docs to
> >>>>>> support
> >>>>>>> the older> > > > versions in> > > > > > > > some> > > > > > > > >>
> >
> >>>>> way.
> >>>>>>> So,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> first
> >>>>>>> thought that came to mind is a search> > > > capability in> > > >
> > >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> order> > > > > > > > >> > for> > > > > > > > >> > >> > users> > > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to find them easier. Another idea, we could also> > > >
> >>>>>> keep
> >>>>>>> the> > > > > > > old> > > > > > > > >> site> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> >
> >>>>>>> intact> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > and available as a sub-domain
> or
> >>>>> URL,
> >>>>>>> e.g.,> > > > > > > > >> > 5x.activemq.apache.org,> > > > > > > >
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> activemq.apache.org/5.x, etc. However, the> > > > advantage of
> >>>>> a>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search> > > > > > > > >> > >> > feature> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> is> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > that it would be useful
> >>>> across
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> site, not just> > > > for older> > > > > > > > >> > stuff. We> > >
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > even be able
> >>>> structure
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> search to allow users> > to> > > > select> > > > > > > a> > > > > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> version of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> docs that they would like to search. Anyway, just> > > > some> > >
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> thoughts.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I
> >>>>>>> agree that we should try to get the new site> > > > functional> > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ASAP,> > > > > > > > >> > but> > > > > > > > >> > >> > that> > > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should not eliminate the old site entirely. We> > > >
> >>>>>>> should not> > > > > > > > >> abandon> > > > > > > > >> > users> > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > older versions.> > > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 Bruce.> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had thought that the export of the
> >>>>>> current
> >>>>>>> site> > into> > > > the> > > > > > > > >> gitbook> > > > > > > >
> >> >
> >>>>>> had>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the info, but
> >>>>>>> perhaps there are missing pieces.  I> > > > like the> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>> idea> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > keeping> > > > > > > > >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> the old site running and link to it from the new> > > > site.
> >>>> This>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ensures> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > existing users have
> >>>> all
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> info they need, but> > let's> > > > us move> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>>>> forward>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > new content.
> >>>>>> Perhaps
> >>>>>>> we can switch out the exiting> > > > home page> > > > > > > > for>
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the new> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > one and add a link to
> >>>> old
> >>>>>>> website AMQ project page> > > > ("Existing> > > > > > > > >> users>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > for the original
> >>>>>>> ActiveMQ website click here.").> > If> > > > we are> > > > > > > >
> >>>>> able>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to> > > > > > > > >> > get> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >>>>> some
> >>>>>>> stats on number of accesses to a particular> > page,> > > > we can>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> use> > > > > > > > >> > that> > > > > > > > >> > >> > info> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to prioritise porting older content.> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Search, feature also a good idea, but
> >>>>> I'm
> >>>>>>> not sure> > how> > > > much> > > > > > > > >> effort> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> would> > > > > > > > >> > >> > be> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >>>> involved,
> >>>>>>> there is already a search feature in the> > > > gitbook> > > > > >
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> document> > > > > > > > >> > >> > (linked> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> >
> >>>> to
> >>>>>> on
> >>>>>>> the project page).> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> How about we fill in the existing placeholder> > content> > > > and
> >>>>> add>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links> > > > > > > > >> > to> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> >>>>>> the> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old sites from each project page (and the
> >>>>> home> >
> >>>>>>> page)?> > > > We> > > > > > > could> > > > > > > > >> go> > > > > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> live> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > with this?  Then start working
> >>>>> through
> >>>>>>> the nice to> > > > > > > > >> > haves/criticals.  I> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> think once we're live and the code is available,> > the> > > > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> community> > > > > > > > >> will> > > > > > > > >> > be> > > > > >
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> more> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > inclined to report/fixing
> >>>> issues.>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers> > > > > > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> Bruce>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12,
> >>>>> 2018
> >>>>>>> at 2:44 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > > > > > > >> [hidden email]>
> > >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers gents, looks like we're all
> >>>> set
> >>>>>>> with> > the git> > > > > > > repos.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shall we start putting together a ToDo list
> >>>> for>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> what> > > > > > > needs> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>>> happen>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > move to the new
> >>>>>>> site?  JIRA perhaps?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Bruce you mentioned a search feature for older> > > >
> >>>> content.>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Can> > > > > > > > >> you> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> >>>>>> elaborate>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on this.  Also, there's the actual
> >>>>> content
> >>>>>>> for> > the> > > > pages,> > > > > > > > key> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> >
> >>>>>>> features,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > users etc... Perhaps we
> can
> >>>>> all
> >>>>>>> contribute to> > > > these?  I> > > > > > > > could> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> take> > > > > > > > >> > >> > care> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > of>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Artemis side of things, if people with
> >>>> more>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> experience> > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > >> > NMS,> > > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> CMS> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > and> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 5.x could come up with some content for the> > > > project home>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> pages?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I agree with Michael in that it'd be good to> > get> > > > the
> >>>> new>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> site> > > > > > > > >> > running> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> even> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > if it's not 100% perfect then
> >>>>>>> iteratively> > improve> > > > on it.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:56 AM Clebert> > Suconic
> >>>>> <>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> How to delete one now ?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:55 PM Bruce Snyder <>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Whoops, I just created one as well:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-website.git> > > >
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9,
> >>>>>> 2018
> >>>>>>> at 8:49 AM Clebert> > Suconic> > > > <> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> >>>> wrote:>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> New
> >>>>>> repo
> >>>>>>> created:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-www.git> > > > > >
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:47 AM Clebert> > > >
> >>>>>> Suconic>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[hidden email]>
> >>>>> wrote:>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Robbie Gemmel pointed me to> > > > > > > > >>
> >>>>> https://gitbox.apache.org/
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'm trying to create one now:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On
> >>>>>>> Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:36 AM Clebert> > > > Suconic> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's for
> >>>>>> Bruce
> >>>>>>> Snyder then...> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct
> >>>> 9,
> >>>>>> 2018
> >>>>>>> at 10:29 AM> > Justin> > > > Bertram> > > > > > > <> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> >> >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's a "Create a new Git> > repository"> > > > >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> option> > > > > > > > on> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>> https://selfserve.apache.org/.  I> > > > clicked it> > > > > > > >
> >>>>> and>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logged> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > in,> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> but> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > apparently> > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's restricted to ASF members and> >
> >>>>> PMC>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> chairs.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Justin> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> >> >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:24 AM> > Clebert> > > > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Suconic> > > > > > > > <> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> >> >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I create an Infra JIRA for this:> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17124> > > > > > > >
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:49 AM> > > > Clebert>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Suconic> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > <
> >>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked
> >>>> infra
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> no reponse.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know any procedure> >
> >>>> on> >
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> creating> > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > >> > repo at> > > > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did ask infra about something> > > > what to> > > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> do..> > > > > > > > >> > but so> > > > > > > > >> > >> > far> > > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > response. I> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know they are busy.. so if> >
> >>>>>> anyone>
> >>>>>>>>>> here> > > > > > > > knows> > > > > > > > >> a> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> better> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > way> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> >
> >>>>> to>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handle> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> this....> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >>>> On
> >>>>>> Mon,
> >>>>>>> Oct 8, 2018 at 9:14 AM> > > > Clebert> > > > > > > > >> Suconic> >
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[hidden email]>> >
> >>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just initiated a thread at> > > >
> >>>>> apache>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> infra> > > > > > > > >> > list,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >>>>>>> asking> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > for> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> guidance on> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > how
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>> setup things.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will keep it posted here.> > > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:01> >
> >>>> AM>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher> > > > > > > > >> > Shannon> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <> > [hidden email]> > > >
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for getting the> >
> >>>>>>> website> > > > > > > > discussion> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> >>>>> restarted.
> >>>>>>> I> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > think it> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will be> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> quite beneficial if we can> > get> > > > the> > > > > > > new> > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> website> > > > > > > > >> > >> > live> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> and> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > have> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> more> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > clear> > > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information on there such> >
> >>>> as>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> what> > > > > > > > Artemis> > > > > > > > >> > is,> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> etc.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at> > 9:13
> >>>> AM>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Clebert> > > > > > > > >> > Suconic <> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will handle
> >>>> it
> >>>>>>> next> > week.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at> > 5:09> > > > PM> > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Bruce> > > > > > > > >> > Snyder <> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Clebert,> > > > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be very> > helpful> > > > if you> > > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> could> > > > > > > > >> > create> > > > > > > > >> > >> > a> > > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > repo> > > > > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for it> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> get> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the> > > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source code moved into> > > >
> >>>>>>> there.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at> > > > 7:58 AM> > > > > > > > >>
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I guessed its the shadow was added.




 If its easy could you try with both active mq with drop so we can see if it looks better or worse?




Re current committers and pmc, you can use the apache phonebook.




https://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=activemq




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On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 3:38 PM +0000, "Justin Bertram" <[hidden email]> wrote:










I agree we need up-to-date information for
http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/team/. Bruce, where's the
official data on who is a PMC member and who is a committer?

I fixed the CMS download issue.

What are the details about the Slack channel? This is the first I've heard
of it.

I added the drop-shadow on the "MQ" because on the ActiveMQ 5 project page
the background behind the image is the same color as the "MQ" and therefore
it was disappearing. I added the drop-shadow to make it visible. It
wouldn't be hard to add a drop-shadow to the whole thing, but I didn't
think the drop-shadow on just the "MQ" looked any stranger than it being a
different color in the first place.

One thing I'm not really clear on yet is how modifications from the
activemq-website repo will be propagated to the actual website. I've read
about some Apache buildbot thing that might help here, but I don't know
much about it yet. Anybody else have any clue on how that's supposed to
work?

BTW, I'm working up a PR right now, but I wanted to get as much of it right
as I could before I sent it.


Justin

On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 6:00 PM Michael André Pearce
 wrote:

> A few bits we need to work on:
>
> I think we need to update this, it was extracted from current site, but is
> out of date.
> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/team/
>
> Seems we are missing cms download page
> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/projects/cms/download/
>
> On the contact side, there is now a slack channel this should be added,
> and have the same visibility as IRC (could be added later, but just to note)
>
>
> With the hero sections on the logo side, where drop shadow has been added
> to the letters in MQ for Apache Active MQ, it looks a bit odd just having
> MQ drop shadowed, would it be easy to drop shadow it all.
>
>
>
>
> > On 16 Mar 2019, at 22:50, Michael André Pearce <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Forgot to say looks good! great stuff!!
> >
> >> On 16 Mar 2019, at 22:41, Michael André Pearce <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Is there a PR for this? It be great to have this PR’d to the repo, then
> people can collaborate.
> >>
> >>> On 16 Mar 2019, at 15:22, Clebert Suconic
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> That is great work.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> If no URL changes. This seems ready to deploy then.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> We can keep improving after a first version.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 9:50 PM Justin Bertram  > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I've spent some time working with the Markdown content that Mike
> generated
> >>>> from the dump of the old wiki. Instead of using GitBook which
> rearranges
> >>>> all the pages into a hierarchical structure I kept the same flat
> structure
> >>>> as existed before so that all the old links for any of the main
> content
> >>>> still work. I rearranged the NMS and CMS content a bit as those bits
> were
> >>>> relatively small and some of it was quite stale and confusing in
> places.  I
> >>>> also filled out the content for the various project landing pages.
> The 5.x
> >>>> landing page has basically the same content as the current landing
> page. I
> >>>> kept that the same since it's sufficed for the last several years.
> >>>> Everything should be working now except for some older Artemis
> >>>> documentation that I haven't uploaded to the staging site.  Although
> the
> >>>> content on the staging site is HTML *almost* all the source content is
> >>>> Markdown so it should be easy to edit and style differently if we
> want.
> >>>>
> >>>> Give it a look and let me know what you think. The staging website is
> the
> >>>> same:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website
> >>>>
> >>>> You can take an old link like this:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://activemq.apache.org/how-do-i-use-ssl.html
> >>>>
> >>>> And inject the "activemq-website" bit like this:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/how-do-i-use-ssl.html
> >>>>
> >>>> And everything should work. I'm sure there's some formatting here and
> there
> >>>> that I've missed but everything should be there in general including
> all
> >>>> the breadcrumbs for the old wiki content.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Justin
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 7:09 AM Martyn Taylor
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I think the latest changes to the home page looks goods.  I still
> prefer
> >>>> my
> >>>>> strap line of course, but the one currently on there is OK.  I think
> to
> >>>> go
> >>>>> live with this the project pages need to be fixed up.  The links
> >>>> currently
> >>>>> do not work and the feature list is templated out with mock content
> only.
> >>>>> I would just remove the templated feature sections and fix the links
> (and
> >>>>> add a link to the old website from the project pages), then it'd be
> ready
> >>>>> to go live (Providing it complies with Apache project policies as
> Robbie
> >>>>> mentioned above, then I think it'd be good to go with these changes).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:58 AM Justin Bertram
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> No worries, Mike. I took care of it using the SVG file that Robbie
> >>>>> pointed
> >>>>>> out. The images now have a "TM" and "Apache" in the smaller versions
> >>>>> should
> >>>>>> be easier to read.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Justin
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 3:29 PM michael.andre.pearce
> >>>>>>  wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So there is some original svg images in activemq project.These are
> >>>> bit
> >>>>>> raw
> >>>>>>> unfortunately we found.So back when making console we found that it
> >>>>> didnt
> >>>>>>> work well with backgrounds etc, Martyn created a version with an
> edge
> >>>>> and
> >>>>>>> simply we applied a shadow to that. I have the pngs (i think i
> added
> >>>>>> these
> >>>>>>> to a dir in the website along with a color pallete varient) but not
> >>>>> svgs.
> >>>>>>> Martyn may have those.On phone atm. Will try find tomorrow exactly
> >>>>> where
> >>>>>> we
> >>>>>>> put them. Ill also add up anything i can find from console time. We
> >>>> had
> >>>>>>> some hex backgrounds martyn and i had too we mocked up which were
> >>>> nice.
> >>>>>>> Everything is png though i have.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy
> >>>> smartphone.
> >>>>>>> -------- Original message --------From: Robbie Gemmell <
> >>>>>>> [hidden email]> Date: 05/03/2019  18:09  (GMT+00:00) To:
> >>>>>>> [hidden email] Subject: Re: Website This seems to be
> where
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>> original files went:
> >>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/activemq/blob/master/docs/img/I notice
> >>>> now I
> >>>>>>> can read it that the footer should also mention[ActiveMQ] Artemis
> in
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>> text when listing off terms.RobbieOn Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 17:58,
> Justin
> >>>>>>> Bertram  wrote:>> I assume some original
> vector
> >>>>>>> images exist from which the various> individual images were
> created,
> >>>>> but
> >>>>>> I
> >>>>>>> don't have those so modifying the> images might be tricky.
> However, I
> >>>>> did
> >>>>>>> change the Apache image in the> footer to one that's easier to
> >>>>>> discern.>> I
> >>>>>>> increased the size of the footer text. The reason it was that small
> >>>> to>
> >>>>>>> begin with is that is what the footer text is like on the existing
> >>>>>>> ActiveMQ> website (although it's even less legible since it blends
> in
> >>>>>> with
> >>>>>>> the> background so much).>> Mike, do you have the original images
> for
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>> new ActiveMQ logo (i.e. the> colored hexagons)?>>> Justin>> On Tue,
> >>>> Mar
> >>>>>> 5,
> >>>>>>> 2019 at 9:50 AM Robbie Gemmell >
> wrote:>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks Justin, the main things look covered now. Yeah, whimsy is
> >>>>> fixed> >
> >>>>>>> to monitoring the live version, I was jsut mainly noting it for> >
> >>>>>>> comparison and perhaps later reference.> >> > Some other small
> >>>> policy +
> >>>>>>> style related comments:> > - TM should be added on the logo
> images.>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -
> >>>>>>> The top and bottom left images could do with adjusting so that> >
> >>>>>> 'Apache'
> >>>>>>> is legible.> > - Similarly the footer text is rather tiny, even
> >>>> though
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> footer> > dwarfs it with a lot of free space.> > - Some of the
> images
> >>>>>>> appear heavily down sized and could probably be> > tweaked to
> improve
> >>>>>> their
> >>>>>>> legibility and optimise for size a bit. E.g> > the ASF logo used at
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>> bottom is actually 3495×1417 resolution and> > 150KB.> > - The
> bottom
> >>>>> ASF
> >>>>>>> logo text isnt that readable against the footer> > background
> >>>> colour.>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Robbie> >> > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 17:51, Justin Bertram <
> >>>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:> > >> > > I just updated with some
> >>>> changes
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> comply with the branding policy. I> > > think that's everything. If
> >>>> you
> >>>>>> see
> >>>>>>> anything that's been left out please> > > let me know.> > >> > > I
> >>>>> don't
> >>>>>>> see a way to make whimsy test the staged version.> > >> > >> > >
> >>>>> Justin>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 9:47 AM Robbie Gemmell <
> >>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > wrote:> > >> > > > I haven't had a
> >>>>> chance
> >>>>>>> to look at the actual content, but from> > > > skimming the index
> >>>> page
> >>>>> it
> >>>>>>> looks like there are still tweaks needed to> > > > satisfy various
> >>>> site
> >>>>>>> policies:> > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs> > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> At least some of these are checked automatically:> > > >
> >>>>>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/site/> > > >> > > > Robbie> > > >> > > >
> >>>> On
> >>>>>>> Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 14:54, Clebert Suconic <> >
> >>>>> [hidden email]
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > This looks ready! What we need to make
> >>>>> it
> >>>>>>> official?> > > > >> > > > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 12:53 PM Justin
> >>>>>> Bertram <
> >>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > I added
> >>>> some
> >>>>>>> content to the landing page and pushed it to the> > staging> > > >
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> website [1]. In general, I tried to highlight what was true for> >
> >>>>>> *both*>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> brokers but also distinguish them to make things clear for
> >>>>>>> users.> > > > I've got> > > > > > other content changes ready to
> >>>> push,
> >>>>>> but
> >>>>>>> I wanted to get this out> > > > first for> > > > > > review &
> >>>>>> discussion.>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In case anybody wonders, I removed the big "Used
> >>>>> By"
> >>>>>>> section that> > was> > > > > > supposed to be full of company logos
> >>>> for
> >>>>>> two
> >>>>>>> reasons:> > > > > >   1) I'm not sure we have any concrete data on
> >>>>>> that.> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> 2) It's not clear to me whether or not we need permission
> >>>> to
> >>>>>> use>
> >>>>>>>>>> another> > > > > > company's logo on our website and make
> >>>> claims
> >>>>>>> about their use of> > > > ActiveMQ.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >
> >
> >>>>>>> Justin> > > > > >> > > > > > [1]
> >>>>>>> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/> > > > > >> > > > > >
> >>>> On
> >>>>>>> Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 9:59 AM Andy Taylor  >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > > I'd be happy to help with adding
> >>>>>> content,
> >>>>>>> I remember a hackathon> > was> > > > > > > mentioned at one point.>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any way since it's now in git it would be great if
> >>>>>> people
> >>>>>>> could> > > > contribute> > > > > > > so we can have a better
> website
> >>>>>> sooner
> >>>>>>> rather than later.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Andy> > > > > > >> > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 at 17:19, Martyn Taylor > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The site is uploaded and links
> >>>>>> added.> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note there's currently a sync issue with
> >>>> EU
> >>>>>>> mirrors[1], it's> > > > currently> > > > > > > > being worked on.
> To
> >>>>>> view
> >>>>>>> the changes in the interim, use the> > US> > > > > > > mirror[2].>
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers> > > > > > > > Martyn> > > > > > > >> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 1. https://status.apache.org/> > > > > > > > 2.
> >>>>>>> http://activemq.us.apache.org/> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On
> Tue,
> >>>>> Nov
> >>>>>>> 6, 2018 at 4:58 PM Martyn Taylor <> > [hidden email]>> > > >
> >>>>> wrote:>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've went ahead and populated the
> >>>>>>> repository, there's a> > GitHub> > > > mirror> > > > > > > > >
> >>>> here[1].
> >>>>>>> I've also generated the static content and should> > have> > > >
> >>>> the> >
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> work> > > > > > > > > in progress hosted under a separately
> >>>>>> directory
> >>>>>>> and a> > message on> > > > the> > > > > > > > > homepage shortly.>
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 1.
> >>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/activemq-website> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 8:54 PM Bruce Snyder <>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >>
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> +1> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> Bruce> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 2:26 PM Clebert Suconic <> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> wrote:> > > > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about this. WE could :> > > > > > > > >>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - commit this on git> > > > > > > > >> > - upload a
> >>>>>> snapshot
> >>>>>>> for review under our web-site.> > > > > > > > >> > On Mon, Oct 22,
> >>>> 2018
> >>>>>> at
> >>>>>>> 8:46 AM Clebert Suconic> > > > > > > > >> > <
> >>>> [hidden email]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > +1000. We had
> that
> >>>>>>> options discussed here a few times.> > > > Having the> > > > > > >
> >
> >>>>>> old> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website somewhere with a link is the way to go for
> >>>>> the>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> migration.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > On Mon,
> >>>> Oct
> >>>>>> 22,
> >>>>>>> 2018 at 7:47 AM michael.andre.pearce <> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds good to me.> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------- Original message --------From: Martyn Taylor
> >>>>> <>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]> Date: 22/10/2018  12:38
> >>>>>>> (GMT+00:00)> > To:> > > > > > > > >> > [hidden email]
> >>>>> Subject:
> >>>>>>> Re: Website> > > > > > > > >> > >> How about an equivalent message
> on
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>> home page of> > the new> > > > > > > > website,> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> directing users to the old site?> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:39 PM Bruce Snyder <> > > > > > > > >>
> >>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> wrote:> > > > > >
> > >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Check out the Camel website and the
> >>>> message
> >>>>>>> that they> > > > posted> > > > > > > > about> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>>> their>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website changes that are underway:> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://camel.apache.org/> > > > > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > > > > > > >> > >> >> > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 3:30 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 8:38 PM Bruce
> >>>> Snyder
> >>>>>> <> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > Fair
> >>>>>> points,
> >>>>>>> Martyn. I like the idea of a> > > > combination of> > > > > > >
> >>>> JIRA> >
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > plus a> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> list of those issues that is easily visible> > > > somewhere
> >>>>>> such>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> as> > > > > > > > >> the> > > > > > > > >> > wiki.> > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Seeing as how we are
> >>>>> moving
> >>>>>>> the website around> > > > completely,> > > > > > > I> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> believe we> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > need to include the docs to
> >>>>>> support
> >>>>>>> the older> > > > versions in> > > > > > > > some> > > > > > > > >>
> >
> >>>>> way.
> >>>>>>> So,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> first
> >>>>>>> thought that came to mind is a search> > > > capability in> > > >
> > >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> order> > > > > > > > >> > for> > > > > > > > >> > >> > users> > > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to find them easier. Another idea, we could also> > > >
> >>>>>> keep
> >>>>>>> the> > > > > > > old> > > > > > > > >> site> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> >
> >>>>>>> intact> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > and available as a sub-domain
> or
> >>>>> URL,
> >>>>>>> e.g.,> > > > > > > > >> > 5x.activemq.apache.org,> > > > > > > >
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> activemq.apache.org/5.x, etc. However, the> > > > advantage of
> >>>>> a>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search> > > > > > > > >> > >> > feature> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> is> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > that it would be useful
> >>>> across
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> site, not just> > > > for older> > > > > > > > >> > stuff. We> > >
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > even be able
> >>>> structure
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> search to allow users> > to> > > > select> > > > > > > a> > > > > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> version of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> docs that they would like to search. Anyway, just> > > > some> > >
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> thoughts.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I
> >>>>>>> agree that we should try to get the new site> > > > functional> > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ASAP,> > > > > > > > >> > but> > > > > > > > >> > >> > that> > > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should not eliminate the old site entirely. We> > > >
> >>>>>>> should not> > > > > > > > >> abandon> > > > > > > > >> > users> > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > older versions.> > > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 Bruce.> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had thought that the export of the
> >>>>>> current
> >>>>>>> site> > into> > > > the> > > > > > > > >> gitbook> > > > > > > >
> >> >
> >>>>>> had>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the info, but
> >>>>>>> perhaps there are missing pieces.  I> > > > like the> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>> idea> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > keeping> > > > > > > > >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> the old site running and link to it from the new> > > > site.
> >>>> This>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ensures> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > existing users have
> >>>> all
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> info they need, but> > let's> > > > us move> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>>>> forward>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > new content.
> >>>>>> Perhaps
> >>>>>>> we can switch out the exiting> > > > home page> > > > > > > > for>
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the new> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > one and add a link to
> >>>> old
> >>>>>>> website AMQ project page> > > > ("Existing> > > > > > > > >> users>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > for the original
> >>>>>>> ActiveMQ website click here.").> > If> > > > we are> > > > > > > >
> >>>>> able>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to> > > > > > > > >> > get> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >>>>> some
> >>>>>>> stats on number of accesses to a particular> > page,> > > > we can>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> use> > > > > > > > >> > that> > > > > > > > >> > >> > info> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to prioritise porting older content.> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Search, feature also a good idea, but
> >>>>> I'm
> >>>>>>> not sure> > how> > > > much> > > > > > > > >> effort> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> would> > > > > > > > >> > >> > be> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >>>> involved,
> >>>>>>> there is already a search feature in the> > > > gitbook> > > > > >
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> document> > > > > > > > >> > >> > (linked> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> >
> >>>> to
> >>>>>> on
> >>>>>>> the project page).> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> How about we fill in the existing placeholder> > content> > > > and
> >>>>> add>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links> > > > > > > > >> > to> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> >>>>>> the> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old sites from each project page (and the
> >>>>> home> >
> >>>>>>> page)?> > > > We> > > > > > > could> > > > > > > > >> go> > > > > >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> live> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > with this?  Then start working
> >>>>> through
> >>>>>>> the nice to> > > > > > > > >> > haves/criticals.  I> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> think once we're live and the code is available,> > the> > > > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> community> > > > > > > > >> will> > > > > > > > >> > be> > > > > >
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> more> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > inclined to report/fixing
> >>>> issues.>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers> > > > > > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> Bruce>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12,
> >>>>> 2018
> >>>>>>> at 2:44 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > > > > > > >> [hidden email]>
> > >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers gents, looks like we're all
> >>>> set
> >>>>>>> with> > the git> > > > > > > repos.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shall we start putting together a ToDo list
> >>>> for>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> what> > > > > > > needs> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>>> happen>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > move to the new
> >>>>>>> site?  JIRA perhaps?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Bruce you mentioned a search feature for older> > > >
> >>>> content.>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Can> > > > > > > > >> you> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> >>>>>> elaborate>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on this.  Also, there's the actual
> >>>>> content
> >>>>>>> for> > the> > > > pages,> > > > > > > > key> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> >
> >>>>>>> features,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > users etc... Perhaps we
> can
> >>>>> all
> >>>>>>> contribute to> > > > these?  I> > > > > > > > could> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> take> > > > > > > > >> > >> > care> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > of>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Artemis side of things, if people with
> >>>> more>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> experience> > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > >> > NMS,> > > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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Re: Website

Robbie Gemmell
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Personally I would probably just remove the details from the site,
these pages always tend to end up becoming stale (e.g these already
did).

The phonebook is the easiest location to look them up though:
http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=activemq

You could also view roster detail via Whimsy:
https://whimsy.apache.org/

The original sources are LDAP and a repository I dont think you can access.

Robbie

On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 15:38, Justin Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> I agree we need up-to-date information for
> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/team/. Bruce, where's the
> official data on who is a PMC member and who is a committer?
>
> I fixed the CMS download issue.
>
> What are the details about the Slack channel? This is the first I've heard
> of it.
>
> I added the drop-shadow on the "MQ" because on the ActiveMQ 5 project page
> the background behind the image is the same color as the "MQ" and therefore
> it was disappearing. I added the drop-shadow to make it visible. It
> wouldn't be hard to add a drop-shadow to the whole thing, but I didn't
> think the drop-shadow on just the "MQ" looked any stranger than it being a
> different color in the first place.
>
> One thing I'm not really clear on yet is how modifications from the
> activemq-website repo will be propagated to the actual website. I've read
> about some Apache buildbot thing that might help here, but I don't know
> much about it yet. Anybody else have any clue on how that's supposed to
> work?
>
> BTW, I'm working up a PR right now, but I wanted to get as much of it right
> as I could before I sent it.
>
>
> Justin
>
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 6:00 PM Michael André Pearce
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > A few bits we need to work on:
> >
> > I think we need to update this, it was extracted from current site, but is
> > out of date.
> > http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/team/
> >
> > Seems we are missing cms download page
> > http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/projects/cms/download/
> >
> > On the contact side, there is now a slack channel this should be added,
> > and have the same visibility as IRC (could be added later, but just to note)
> >
> >
> > With the hero sections on the logo side, where drop shadow has been added
> > to the letters in MQ for Apache Active MQ, it looks a bit odd just having
> > MQ drop shadowed, would it be easy to drop shadow it all.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 16 Mar 2019, at 22:50, Michael André Pearce <
> > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Forgot to say looks good! great stuff!!
> > >
> > >> On 16 Mar 2019, at 22:41, Michael André Pearce <
> > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Is there a PR for this? It be great to have this PR’d to the repo, then
> > people can collaborate.
> > >>
> > >>> On 16 Mar 2019, at 15:22, Clebert Suconic <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> That is great work.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> If no URL changes. This seems ready to deploy then.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> We can keep improving after a first version.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 9:50 PM Justin Bertram <[hidden email]
> > <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I've spent some time working with the Markdown content that Mike
> > generated
> > >>>> from the dump of the old wiki. Instead of using GitBook which
> > rearranges
> > >>>> all the pages into a hierarchical structure I kept the same flat
> > structure
> > >>>> as existed before so that all the old links for any of the main
> > content
> > >>>> still work. I rearranged the NMS and CMS content a bit as those bits
> > were
> > >>>> relatively small and some of it was quite stale and confusing in
> > places.  I
> > >>>> also filled out the content for the various project landing pages.
> > The 5.x
> > >>>> landing page has basically the same content as the current landing
> > page. I
> > >>>> kept that the same since it's sufficed for the last several years.
> > >>>> Everything should be working now except for some older Artemis
> > >>>> documentation that I haven't uploaded to the staging site.  Although
> > the
> > >>>> content on the staging site is HTML *almost* all the source content is
> > >>>> Markdown so it should be easy to edit and style differently if we
> > want.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Give it a look and let me know what you think. The staging website is
> > the
> > >>>> same:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website
> > >>>>
> > >>>> You can take an old link like this:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> http://activemq.apache.org/how-do-i-use-ssl.html
> > >>>>
> > >>>> And inject the "activemq-website" bit like this:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/how-do-i-use-ssl.html
> > >>>>
> > >>>> And everything should work. I'm sure there's some formatting here and
> > there
> > >>>> that I've missed but everything should be there in general including
> > all
> > >>>> the breadcrumbs for the old wiki content.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Justin
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 7:09 AM Martyn Taylor <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I think the latest changes to the home page looks goods.  I still
> > prefer
> > >>>> my
> > >>>>> strap line of course, but the one currently on there is OK.  I think
> > to
> > >>>> go
> > >>>>> live with this the project pages need to be fixed up.  The links
> > >>>> currently
> > >>>>> do not work and the feature list is templated out with mock content
> > only.
> > >>>>> I would just remove the templated feature sections and fix the links
> > (and
> > >>>>> add a link to the old website from the project pages), then it'd be
> > ready
> > >>>>> to go live (Providing it complies with Apache project policies as
> > Robbie
> > >>>>> mentioned above, then I think it'd be good to go with these changes).
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:58 AM Justin Bertram <[hidden email]>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> No worries, Mike. I took care of it using the SVG file that Robbie
> > >>>>> pointed
> > >>>>>> out. The images now have a "TM" and "Apache" in the smaller versions
> > >>>>> should
> > >>>>>> be easier to read.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Justin
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 3:29 PM michael.andre.pearce
> > >>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> So there is some original svg images in activemq project.These are
> > >>>> bit
> > >>>>>> raw
> > >>>>>>> unfortunately we found.So back when making console we found that it
> > >>>>> didnt
> > >>>>>>> work well with backgrounds etc, Martyn created a version with an
> > edge
> > >>>>> and
> > >>>>>>> simply we applied a shadow to that. I have the pngs (i think i
> > added
> > >>>>>> these
> > >>>>>>> to a dir in the website along with a color pallete varient) but not
> > >>>>> svgs.
> > >>>>>>> Martyn may have those.On phone atm. Will try find tomorrow exactly
> > >>>>> where
> > >>>>>> we
> > >>>>>>> put them. Ill also add up anything i can find from console time. We
> > >>>> had
> > >>>>>>> some hex backgrounds martyn and i had too we mocked up which were
> > >>>> nice.
> > >>>>>>> Everything is png though i have.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy
> > >>>> smartphone.
> > >>>>>>> -------- Original message --------From: Robbie Gemmell <
> > >>>>>>> [hidden email]> Date: 05/03/2019  18:09  (GMT+00:00) To:
> > >>>>>>> [hidden email] Subject: Re: Website This seems to be
> > where
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>>> original files went:
> > >>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/activemq/blob/master/docs/img/I notice
> > >>>> now I
> > >>>>>>> can read it that the footer should also mention[ActiveMQ] Artemis
> > in
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>>> text when listing off terms.RobbieOn Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 17:58,
> > Justin
> > >>>>>>> Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:>> I assume some original
> > vector
> > >>>>>>> images exist from which the various> individual images were
> > created,
> > >>>>> but
> > >>>>>> I
> > >>>>>>> don't have those so modifying the> images might be tricky.
> > However, I
> > >>>>> did
> > >>>>>>> change the Apache image in the> footer to one that's easier to
> > >>>>>> discern.>> I
> > >>>>>>> increased the size of the footer text. The reason it was that small
> > >>>> to>
> > >>>>>>> begin with is that is what the footer text is like on the existing
> > >>>>>>> ActiveMQ> website (although it's even less legible since it blends
> > in
> > >>>>>> with
> > >>>>>>> the> background so much).>> Mike, do you have the original images
> > for
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>>> new ActiveMQ logo (i.e. the> colored hexagons)?>>> Justin>> On Tue,
> > >>>> Mar
> > >>>>>> 5,
> > >>>>>>> 2019 at 9:50 AM Robbie Gemmell <[hidden email]>>
> > wrote:>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Thanks Justin, the main things look covered now. Yeah, whimsy is
> > >>>>> fixed> >
> > >>>>>>> to monitoring the live version, I was jsut mainly noting it for> >
> > >>>>>>> comparison and perhaps later reference.> >> > Some other small
> > >>>> policy +
> > >>>>>>> style related comments:> > - TM should be added on the logo
> > images.>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> -
> > >>>>>>> The top and bottom left images could do with adjusting so that> >
> > >>>>>> 'Apache'
> > >>>>>>> is legible.> > - Similarly the footer text is rather tiny, even
> > >>>> though
> > >>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>> footer> > dwarfs it with a lot of free space.> > - Some of the
> > images
> > >>>>>>> appear heavily down sized and could probably be> > tweaked to
> > improve
> > >>>>>> their
> > >>>>>>> legibility and optimise for size a bit. E.g> > the ASF logo used at
> > >>>> the
> > >>>>>>> bottom is actually 3495×1417 resolution and> > 150KB.> > - The
> > bottom
> > >>>>> ASF
> > >>>>>>> logo text isnt that readable against the footer> > background
> > >>>> colour.>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Robbie> >> > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 17:51, Justin Bertram <
> > >>>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:> > >> > > I just updated with some
> > >>>> changes
> > >>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>> comply with the branding policy. I> > > think that's everything. If
> > >>>> you
> > >>>>>> see
> > >>>>>>> anything that's been left out please> > > let me know.> > >> > > I
> > >>>>> don't
> > >>>>>>> see a way to make whimsy test the staged version.> > >> > >> > >
> > >>>>> Justin>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 9:47 AM Robbie Gemmell <
> > >>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > wrote:> > >> > > > I haven't had a
> > >>>>> chance
> > >>>>>>> to look at the actual content, but from> > > > skimming the index
> > >>>> page
> > >>>>> it
> > >>>>>>> looks like there are still tweaks needed to> > > > satisfy various
> > >>>> site
> > >>>>>>> policies:> > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs> > >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> At least some of these are checked automatically:> > > >
> > >>>>>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/site/> > > >> > > > Robbie> > > >> > > >
> > >>>> On
> > >>>>>>> Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 14:54, Clebert Suconic <> >
> > >>>>> [hidden email]
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > This looks ready! What we need to make
> > >>>>> it
> > >>>>>>> official?> > > > >> > > > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 12:53 PM Justin
> > >>>>>> Bertram <
> > >>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > I added
> > >>>> some
> > >>>>>>> content to the landing page and pushed it to the> > staging> > > >
> > >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>> website [1]. In general, I tried to highlight what was true for> >
> > >>>>>> *both*>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> brokers but also distinguish them to make things clear for
> > >>>>>>> users.> > > > I've got> > > > > > other content changes ready to
> > >>>> push,
> > >>>>>> but
> > >>>>>>> I wanted to get this out> > > > first for> > > > > > review &
> > >>>>>> discussion.>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In case anybody wonders, I removed the big "Used
> > >>>>> By"
> > >>>>>>> section that> > was> > > > > > supposed to be full of company logos
> > >>>> for
> > >>>>>> two
> > >>>>>>> reasons:> > > > > >   1) I'm not sure we have any concrete data on
> > >>>>>> that.> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2) It's not clear to me whether or not we need permission
> > >>>> to
> > >>>>>> use>
> > >>>>>>>>>> another> > > > > > company's logo on our website and make
> > >>>> claims
> > >>>>>>> about their use of> > > > ActiveMQ.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >
> > >
> > >>>>>>> Justin> > > > > >> > > > > > [1]
> > >>>>>>> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/> > > > > >> > > > > >
> > >>>> On
> > >>>>>>> Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 9:59 AM Andy Taylor <[hidden email]> >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > > I'd be happy to help with adding
> > >>>>>> content,
> > >>>>>>> I remember a hackathon> > was> > > > > > > mentioned at one point.>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any way since it's now in git it would be great if
> > >>>>>> people
> > >>>>>>> could> > > > contribute> > > > > > > so we can have a better
> > website
> > >>>>>> sooner
> > >>>>>>> rather than later.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Andy> > > > > > >> > >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 at 17:19, Martyn Taylor <[hidden email]>> >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The site is uploaded and links
> > >>>>>> added.> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note there's currently a sync issue with
> > >>>> EU
> > >>>>>>> mirrors[1], it's> > > > currently> > > > > > > > being worked on.
> > To
> > >>>>>> view
> > >>>>>>> the changes in the interim, use the> > US> > > > > > > mirror[2].>
> > >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers> > > > > > > > Martyn> > > > > > > >> >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> 1. https://status.apache.org/> > > > > > > > 2.
> > >>>>>>> http://activemq.us.apache.org/> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On
> > Tue,
> > >>>>> Nov
> > >>>>>>> 6, 2018 at 4:58 PM Martyn Taylor <> > [hidden email]>> > > >
> > >>>>> wrote:>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've went ahead and populated the
> > >>>>>>> repository, there's a> > GitHub> > > > mirror> > > > > > > > >
> > >>>> here[1].
> > >>>>>>> I've also generated the static content and should> > have> > > >
> > >>>> the> >
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> work> > > > > > > > > in progress hosted under a separately
> > >>>>>> directory
> > >>>>>>> and a> > message on> > > > the> > > > > > > > > homepage shortly.>
> > >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 1.
> > >>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/activemq-website> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > >
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 8:54 PM Bruce Snyder <>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >>
> > >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> +1> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> Bruce> > > > > > > >
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 2:26 PM Clebert Suconic <> >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> wrote:> > > > >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about this. WE could :> > > > > > > > >>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - commit this on git> > > > > > > > >> > - upload a
> > >>>>>> snapshot
> > >>>>>>> for review under our web-site.> > > > > > > > >> > On Mon, Oct 22,
> > >>>> 2018
> > >>>>>> at
> > >>>>>>> 8:46 AM Clebert Suconic> > > > > > > > >> > <
> > >>>> [hidden email]
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > +1000. We had
> > that
> > >>>>>>> options discussed here a few times.> > > > Having the> > > > > > >
> > >
> > >>>>>> old> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website somewhere with a link is the way to go for
> > >>>>> the>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> migration.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > On Mon,
> > >>>> Oct
> > >>>>>> 22,
> > >>>>>>> 2018 at 7:47 AM michael.andre.pearce <> > > > > > > > >> >
> > >>>>>>> [hidden email]> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> >
> > >>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds good to me.> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------- Original message --------From: Martyn Taylor
> > >>>>> <>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]> Date: 22/10/2018  12:38
> > >>>>>>> (GMT+00:00)> > To:> > > > > > > > >> > [hidden email]
> > >>>>> Subject:
> > >>>>>>> Re: Website> > > > > > > > >> > >> How about an equivalent message
> > on
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>>> home page of> > the new> > > > > > > > website,> > > > > > > > >> >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> directing users to the old site?> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >
> > >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:39 PM Bruce Snyder <> > > > > > > > >>
> > >>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> wrote:> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Check out the Camel website and the
> > >>>> message
> > >>>>>>> that they> > > > posted> > > > > > > > about> > > > > > > > >> >
> > >>>> their>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website changes that are underway:> > > > > > > >
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://camel.apache.org/> > > > > >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > > > > > > >> > >> >> > >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 3:30 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > > >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 8:38 PM Bruce
> > >>>> Snyder
> > >>>>>> <> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > >>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > Fair
> > >>>>>> points,
> > >>>>>>> Martyn. I like the idea of a> > > > combination of> > > > > > >
> > >>>> JIRA> >
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > plus a> > > > > > > >
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> list of those issues that is easily visible> > > > somewhere
> > >>>>>> such>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> as> > > > > > > > >> the> > > > > > > > >> > wiki.> > >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Seeing as how we are
> > >>>>> moving
> > >>>>>>> the website around> > > > completely,> > > > > > > I> > > > > > > >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> believe we> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > need to include the docs to
> > >>>>>> support
> > >>>>>>> the older> > > > versions in> > > > > > > > some> > > > > > > > >>
> > >
> > >>>>> way.
> > >>>>>>> So,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > first
> > >>>>>>> thought that came to mind is a search> > > > capability in> > > >
> > > >
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> order> > > > > > > > >> > for> > > > > > > > >> > >> > users> > > >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to find them easier. Another idea, we could also> > > >
> > >>>>>> keep
> > >>>>>>> the> > > > > > > old> > > > > > > > >> site> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> > >
> > >>>>>>> intact> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > and available as a sub-domain
> > or
> > >>>>> URL,
> > >>>>>>> e.g.,> > > > > > > > >> > 5x.activemq.apache.org,> > > > > > > >
> > >>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> activemq.apache.org/5.x, etc. However, the> > > > advantage of
> > >>>>> a>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search> > > > > > > > >> > >> > feature> > > > > > > >
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> is> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > that it would be useful
> > >>>> across
> > >>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>> site, not just> > > > for older> > > > > > > > >> > stuff. We> > >
> > >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > even be able
> > >>>> structure
> > >>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>> search to allow users> > to> > > > select> > > > > > > a> > > > > >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> version of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> docs that they would like to search. Anyway, just> > > > some> > >
> > >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> thoughts.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I
> > >>>>>>> agree that we should try to get the new site> > > > functional> > >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> ASAP,> > > > > > > > >> > but> > > > > > > > >> > >> > that> > > >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should not eliminate the old site entirely. We> > > >
> > >>>>>>> should not> > > > > > > > >> abandon> > > > > > > > >> > users> > >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > older versions.> > > >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 Bruce.> > > > > > > >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had thought that the export of the
> > >>>>>> current
> > >>>>>>> site> > into> > > > the> > > > > > > > >> gitbook> > > > > > > >
> > >> >
> > >>>>>> had>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the info, but
> > >>>>>>> perhaps there are missing pieces.  I> > > > like the> > > > > > > >
> > >>>>>> idea> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > keeping> > > > > > > > >>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> the old site running and link to it from the new> > > > site.
> > >>>> This>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ensures> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > existing users have
> > >>>> all
> > >>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>> info they need, but> > let's> > > > us move> > > > > > > > >> >
> > >>>>> forward>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > new content.
> > >>>>>> Perhaps
> > >>>>>>> we can switch out the exiting> > > > home page> > > > > > > > for>
> > >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the new> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > one and add a link to
> > >>>> old
> > >>>>>>> website AMQ project page> > > > ("Existing> > > > > > > > >> users>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > for the original
> > >>>>>>> ActiveMQ website click here.").> > If> > > > we are> > > > > > > >
> > >>>>> able>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to> > > > > > > > >> > get> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > >>>>> some
> > >>>>>>> stats on number of accesses to a particular> > page,> > > > we can>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> use> > > > > > > > >> > that> > > > > > > > >> > >> > info> >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to prioritise porting older content.> > > > > > > >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Search, feature also a good idea, but
> > >>>>> I'm
> > >>>>>>> not sure> > how> > > > much> > > > > > > > >> effort> > > > > > > >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> would> > > > > > > > >> > >> > be> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > >>>> involved,
> > >>>>>>> there is already a search feature in the> > > > gitbook> > > > > >
> > >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> document> > > > > > > > >> > >> > (linked> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> > >
> > >>>> to
> > >>>>>> on
> > >>>>>>> the project page).> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >
> > >>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> How about we fill in the existing placeholder> > content> > > > and
> > >>>>> add>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links> > > > > > > > >> > to> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> > >>>>>> the> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old sites from each project page (and the
> > >>>>> home> >
> > >>>>>>> page)?> > > > We> > > > > > > could> > > > > > > > >> go> > > > > >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> live> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > with this?  Then start working
> > >>>>> through
> > >>>>>>> the nice to> > > > > > > > >> > haves/criticals.  I> > > > > > > >
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> think once we're live and the code is available,> > the> > > > >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> community> > > > > > > > >> will> > > > > > > > >> > be> > > > > >
> > >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> more> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > inclined to report/fixing
> > >>>> issues.>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers> > > > > > >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> Bruce>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12,
> > >>>>> 2018
> > >>>>>>> at 2:44 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > > > > > > >> [hidden email]>
> > > >
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers gents, looks like we're all
> > >>>> set
> > >>>>>>> with> > the git> > > > > > > repos.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shall we start putting together a ToDo list
> > >>>> for>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> what> > > > > > > needs> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > >> >
> > >>>> happen>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > move to the new
> > >>>>>>> site?  JIRA perhaps?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Bruce you mentioned a search feature for older> > > >
> > >>>> content.>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Can> > > > > > > > >> you> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > >>>>>> elaborate>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on this.  Also, there's the actual
> > >>>>> content
> > >>>>>>> for> > the> > > > pages,> > > > > > > > key> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> > >
> > >>>>>>> features,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > users etc... Perhaps we
> > can
> > >>>>> all
> > >>>>>>> contribute to> > > > these?  I> > > > > > > > could> > > > > > > >
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> take> > > > > > > > >> > >> > care> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > of>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Artemis side of things, if people with
> > >>>> more>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> experience> > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > >> > NMS,> > > >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> CMS> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > and> > > > > > > > >> >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> 5.x could come up with some content for the> > > > project home>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> pages?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I agree with Michael in that it'd be good to> > get> > > > the
> > >>>> new>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> site> > > > > > > > >> > running> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> even> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > if it's not 100% perfect then
> > >>>>>>> iteratively> > improve> > > > on it.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > >>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:56 AM Clebert> > Suconic
> > >>>>> <>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> How to delete one now ?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:55 PM Bruce Snyder <>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Whoops, I just created one as well:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-website.git> > > >
> > >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9,
> > >>>>>> 2018
> > >>>>>>> at 8:49 AM Clebert> > Suconic> > > > <> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> > >>>> wrote:>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>> New
> > >>>>>> repo
> > >>>>>>> created:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >
> > >>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-www.git> > > > > >
> > >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:47 AM Clebert> > > >
> > >>>>>> Suconic>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[hidden email]>
> > >>>>> wrote:>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Robbie Gemmel pointed me to> > > > > > > > >>
> > >>>>> https://gitbox.apache.org/
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I'm trying to create one now:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On
> > >>>>>>> Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:36 AM Clebert> > > > Suconic> > > > > > > >
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:> > > > > > > >
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's for
> > >>>>>> Bruce
> > >>>>>>> Snyder then...> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct
> > >>>> 9,
> > >>>>>> 2018
> > >>>>>>> at 10:29 AM> > Justin> > > > Bertram> > > > > > > <> > > > > > > >
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> >
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's a "Create a new Git> > repository"> > > > >
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> option> > > > > > > > on> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>>>>>> https://selfserve.apache.org/.  I> > > > clicked it> > > > > > > >
> > >>>>> and>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logged> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > in,> > > > > > > >
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> but> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > apparently> > >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's restricted to ASF members and> >
> > >>>>> PMC>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> chairs.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Justin> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> >
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:24 AM> > Clebert> > > > >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Suconic> > > > > > > > <> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> >
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I create an Infra JIRA for this:> > > > > > > >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17124> > > > > > > >
> > >>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:49 AM> > > > Clebert>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Suconic> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > <
> > >>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked
> > >>>> infra
> > >>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>> no reponse.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > >
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know any procedure> >
> > >>>> on> >
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> creating> > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > >> > repo at> > > > >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did ask infra about something> > > > what to> > > >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> do..> > > > > > > > >> > but so> > > > > > > > >> > >> > far> > > >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > response. I> >
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know they are busy.. so if> >
> > >>>>>> anyone>
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Robbie Gemmell
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About propagation of changes, what often happens with sites now is
that the website (or main) repository contains an 'asf-site' branch
that in turn has a 'content' sub-directory within it comprising the
live site. Anything outwith that can comprise the site source. The
repo is monitored by gitpubsub and whenever changes are committed, the
contents dir gets synced to the actual webservers automatically. No
build jobs etc needed.

Robbie

On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 15:38, Justin Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> I agree we need up-to-date information for
> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/team/. Bruce, where's the
> official data on who is a PMC member and who is a committer?
>
> I fixed the CMS download issue.
>
> What are the details about the Slack channel? This is the first I've heard
> of it.
>
> I added the drop-shadow on the "MQ" because on the ActiveMQ 5 project page
> the background behind the image is the same color as the "MQ" and therefore
> it was disappearing. I added the drop-shadow to make it visible. It
> wouldn't be hard to add a drop-shadow to the whole thing, but I didn't
> think the drop-shadow on just the "MQ" looked any stranger than it being a
> different color in the first place.
>
> One thing I'm not really clear on yet is how modifications from the
> activemq-website repo will be propagated to the actual website. I've read
> about some Apache buildbot thing that might help here, but I don't know
> much about it yet. Anybody else have any clue on how that's supposed to
> work?
>
> BTW, I'm working up a PR right now, but I wanted to get as much of it right
> as I could before I sent it.
>
>
> Justin
>
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 6:00 PM Michael André Pearce
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > A few bits we need to work on:
> >
> > I think we need to update this, it was extracted from current site, but is
> > out of date.
> > http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/team/
> >
> > Seems we are missing cms download page
> > http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/projects/cms/download/
> >
> > On the contact side, there is now a slack channel this should be added,
> > and have the same visibility as IRC (could be added later, but just to note)
> >
> >
> > With the hero sections on the logo side, where drop shadow has been added
> > to the letters in MQ for Apache Active MQ, it looks a bit odd just having
> > MQ drop shadowed, would it be easy to drop shadow it all.
> >
> >
> >

<snipped>
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Re: Website

jbertram
I added the drop-shadow the the "Active" in the main logo. Let me know what
you think.

I agree with Robbie about removing the PMC and committer details. It's an
unnecessary maintenance burden, and a stale website is a bad look. Here's
what I propose:
  * Fold the board reports and the PMC/committers links under the "Apache"
navigation menu.
  * Make the PMC/committers link point to
https://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=activemq

Robbie, the issue I see with propagating changes in the website is that
there's an intermediate step where Jekyll needs to render the HTML from the
markdown, includes, scss, etc. I don't understand how that step is going to
happen. Ideally it would be an automatic process so that we could check in
markdown changes via GitHub and those changes would be made live
automatically.


Justin

On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 12:53 PM Robbie Gemmell <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> About propagation of changes, what often happens with sites now is
> that the website (or main) repository contains an 'asf-site' branch
> that in turn has a 'content' sub-directory within it comprising the
> live site. Anything outwith that can comprise the site source. The
> repo is monitored by gitpubsub and whenever changes are committed, the
> contents dir gets synced to the actual webservers automatically. No
> build jobs etc needed.
>
> Robbie
>
> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 15:38, Justin Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > I agree we need up-to-date information for
> > http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/team/. Bruce, where's the
> > official data on who is a PMC member and who is a committer?
> >
> > I fixed the CMS download issue.
> >
> > What are the details about the Slack channel? This is the first I've
> heard
> > of it.
> >
> > I added the drop-shadow on the "MQ" because on the ActiveMQ 5 project
> page
> > the background behind the image is the same color as the "MQ" and
> therefore
> > it was disappearing. I added the drop-shadow to make it visible. It
> > wouldn't be hard to add a drop-shadow to the whole thing, but I didn't
> > think the drop-shadow on just the "MQ" looked any stranger than it being
> a
> > different color in the first place.
> >
> > One thing I'm not really clear on yet is how modifications from the
> > activemq-website repo will be propagated to the actual website. I've read
> > about some Apache buildbot thing that might help here, but I don't know
> > much about it yet. Anybody else have any clue on how that's supposed to
> > work?
> >
> > BTW, I'm working up a PR right now, but I wanted to get as much of it
> right
> > as I could before I sent it.
> >
> >
> > Justin
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 6:00 PM Michael André Pearce
> > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > > A few bits we need to work on:
> > >
> > > I think we need to update this, it was extracted from current site,
> but is
> > > out of date.
> > > http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/team/
> > >
> > > Seems we are missing cms download page
> > > http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/projects/cms/download/
> > >
> > > On the contact side, there is now a slack channel this should be added,
> > > and have the same visibility as IRC (could be added later, but just to
> note)
> > >
> > >
> > > With the hero sections on the logo side, where drop shadow has been
> added
> > > to the letters in MQ for Apache Active MQ, it looks a bit odd just
> having
> > > MQ drop shadowed, would it be easy to drop shadow it all.
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
> <snipped>
>
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michael.andre.pearce
+1000 the drop shadow think it looks better now.

+1 re linking to the phonebook, also agree with the maintenance point.



Here is the slack channel in asf slack group.

https://the-asf.slack.com/app_redirect?channel=activemq



> On 18 Mar 2019, at 19:44, Justin Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I added the drop-shadow the the "Active" in the main logo. Let me know what
> you think.
>
> I agree with Robbie about removing the PMC and committer details. It's an
> unnecessary maintenance burden, and a stale website is a bad look. Here's
> what I propose:
>  * Fold the board reports and the PMC/committers links under the "Apache"
> navigation menu.
>  * Make the PMC/committers link point to
> https://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=activemq
>
> Robbie, the issue I see with propagating changes in the website is that
> there's an intermediate step where Jekyll needs to render the HTML from the
> markdown, includes, scss, etc. I don't understand how that step is going to
> happen. Ideally it would be an automatic process so that we could check in
> markdown changes via GitHub and those changes would be made live
> automatically.
>
>
> Justin
>
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 12:53 PM Robbie Gemmell <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> About propagation of changes, what often happens with sites now is
>> that the website (or main) repository contains an 'asf-site' branch
>> that in turn has a 'content' sub-directory within it comprising the
>> live site. Anything outwith that can comprise the site source. The
>> repo is monitored by gitpubsub and whenever changes are committed, the
>> contents dir gets synced to the actual webservers automatically. No
>> build jobs etc needed.
>>
>> Robbie
>>
>> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 15:38, Justin Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree we need up-to-date information for
>>> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/team/. Bruce, where's the
>>> official data on who is a PMC member and who is a committer?
>>>
>>> I fixed the CMS download issue.
>>>
>>> What are the details about the Slack channel? This is the first I've
>> heard
>>> of it.
>>>
>>> I added the drop-shadow on the "MQ" because on the ActiveMQ 5 project
>> page
>>> the background behind the image is the same color as the "MQ" and
>> therefore
>>> it was disappearing. I added the drop-shadow to make it visible. It
>>> wouldn't be hard to add a drop-shadow to the whole thing, but I didn't
>>> think the drop-shadow on just the "MQ" looked any stranger than it being
>> a
>>> different color in the first place.
>>>
>>> One thing I'm not really clear on yet is how modifications from the
>>> activemq-website repo will be propagated to the actual website. I've read
>>> about some Apache buildbot thing that might help here, but I don't know
>>> much about it yet. Anybody else have any clue on how that's supposed to
>>> work?
>>>
>>> BTW, I'm working up a PR right now, but I wanted to get as much of it
>> right
>>> as I could before I sent it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Justin
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 6:00 PM Michael André Pearce
>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> A few bits we need to work on:
>>>>
>>>> I think we need to update this, it was extracted from current site,
>> but is
>>>> out of date.
>>>> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/team/
>>>>
>>>> Seems we are missing cms download page
>>>> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/projects/cms/download/
>>>>
>>>> On the contact side, there is now a slack channel this should be added,
>>>> and have the same visibility as IRC (could be added later, but just to
>> note)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> With the hero sections on the logo side, where drop shadow has been
>> added
>>>> to the letters in MQ for Apache Active MQ, it looks a bit odd just
>> having
>>>> MQ drop shadowed, would it be easy to drop shadow it all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> <snipped>
>>

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michael.andre.pearce
What’s the next steps here, after Justin’s hard work?

Would it make sense to vote on the new site to replace the old?

If no objections I would be happy to start a vote once the pr is reviewed and merged.





Sent from my iPad

> On 18 Mar 2019, at 20:49, Michael André Pearce <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> +1000 the drop shadow think it looks better now.
>
> +1 re linking to the phonebook, also agree with the maintenance point.
>
>
>
> Here is the slack channel in asf slack group.
>
> https://the-asf.slack.com/app_redirect?channel=activemq
>
>
>
>> On 18 Mar 2019, at 19:44, Justin Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I added the drop-shadow the the "Active" in the main logo. Let me know what
>> you think.
>>
>> I agree with Robbie about removing the PMC and committer details. It's an
>> unnecessary maintenance burden, and a stale website is a bad look. Here's
>> what I propose:
>> * Fold the board reports and the PMC/committers links under the "Apache"
>> navigation menu.
>> * Make the PMC/committers link point to
>> https://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=activemq
>>
>> Robbie, the issue I see with propagating changes in the website is that
>> there's an intermediate step where Jekyll needs to render the HTML from the
>> markdown, includes, scss, etc. I don't understand how that step is going to
>> happen. Ideally it would be an automatic process so that we could check in
>> markdown changes via GitHub and those changes would be made live
>> automatically.
>>
>>
>> Justin
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 12:53 PM Robbie Gemmell <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> About propagation of changes, what often happens with sites now is
>>> that the website (or main) repository contains an 'asf-site' branch
>>> that in turn has a 'content' sub-directory within it comprising the
>>> live site. Anything outwith that can comprise the site source. The
>>> repo is monitored by gitpubsub and whenever changes are committed, the
>>> contents dir gets synced to the actual webservers automatically. No
>>> build jobs etc needed.
>>>
>>> Robbie
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 15:38, Justin Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I agree we need up-to-date information for
>>>> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/team/. Bruce, where's the
>>>> official data on who is a PMC member and who is a committer?
>>>>
>>>> I fixed the CMS download issue.
>>>>
>>>> What are the details about the Slack channel? This is the first I've
>>> heard
>>>> of it.
>>>>
>>>> I added the drop-shadow on the "MQ" because on the ActiveMQ 5 project
>>> page
>>>> the background behind the image is the same color as the "MQ" and
>>> therefore
>>>> it was disappearing. I added the drop-shadow to make it visible. It
>>>> wouldn't be hard to add a drop-shadow to the whole thing, but I didn't
>>>> think the drop-shadow on just the "MQ" looked any stranger than it being
>>> a
>>>> different color in the first place.
>>>>
>>>> One thing I'm not really clear on yet is how modifications from the
>>>> activemq-website repo will be propagated to the actual website. I've read
>>>> about some Apache buildbot thing that might help here, but I don't know
>>>> much about it yet. Anybody else have any clue on how that's supposed to
>>>> work?
>>>>
>>>> BTW, I'm working up a PR right now, but I wanted to get as much of it
>>> right
>>>> as I could before I sent it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Justin
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 6:00 PM Michael André Pearce
>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A few bits we need to work on:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we need to update this, it was extracted from current site,
>>> but is
>>>>> out of date.
>>>>> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/team/
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems we are missing cms download page
>>>>> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/projects/cms/download/
>>>>>
>>>>> On the contact side, there is now a slack channel this should be added,
>>>>> and have the same visibility as IRC (could be added later, but just to
>>> note)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> With the hero sections on the logo side, where drop shadow has been
>>> added
>>>>> to the letters in MQ for Apache Active MQ, it looks a bit odd just
>>> having
>>>>> MQ drop shadowed, would it be easy to drop shadow it all.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> <snipped>
>>>
>

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Re: Website

jbertram
Mike, did you have any thoughts on how to get the content in git through
Jekyll and onto the live website? Right now it's a manual process which is
fairly tedious, IMO.


Justin

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 12:02 AM Michael André Pearce
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> What’s the next steps here, after Justin’s hard work?
>
> Would it make sense to vote on the new site to replace the old?
>
> If no objections I would be happy to start a vote once the pr is reviewed
> and merged.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 18 Mar 2019, at 20:49, Michael André Pearce <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > +1000 the drop shadow think it looks better now.
> >
> > +1 re linking to the phonebook, also agree with the maintenance point.
> >
> >
> >
> > Here is the slack channel in asf slack group.
> >
> > https://the-asf.slack.com/app_redirect?channel=activemq
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 18 Mar 2019, at 19:44, Justin Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> I added the drop-shadow the the "Active" in the main logo. Let me know
> what
> >> you think.
> >>
> >> I agree with Robbie about removing the PMC and committer details. It's
> an
> >> unnecessary maintenance burden, and a stale website is a bad look.
> Here's
> >> what I propose:
> >> * Fold the board reports and the PMC/committers links under the "Apache"
> >> navigation menu.
> >> * Make the PMC/committers link point to
> >> https://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=activemq
> >>
> >> Robbie, the issue I see with propagating changes in the website is that
> >> there's an intermediate step where Jekyll needs to render the HTML from
> the
> >> markdown, includes, scss, etc. I don't understand how that step is
> going to
> >> happen. Ideally it would be an automatic process so that we could check
> in
> >> markdown changes via GitHub and those changes would be made live
> >> automatically.
> >>
> >>
> >> Justin
> >>
> >> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 12:53 PM Robbie Gemmell <
> [hidden email]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> About propagation of changes, what often happens with sites now is
> >>> that the website (or main) repository contains an 'asf-site' branch
> >>> that in turn has a 'content' sub-directory within it comprising the
> >>> live site. Anything outwith that can comprise the site source. The
> >>> repo is monitored by gitpubsub and whenever changes are committed, the
> >>> contents dir gets synced to the actual webservers automatically. No
> >>> build jobs etc needed.
> >>>
> >>> Robbie
> >>>
> >>>> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 15:38, Justin Bertram <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I agree we need up-to-date information for
> >>>> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/team/. Bruce, where's the
> >>>> official data on who is a PMC member and who is a committer?
> >>>>
> >>>> I fixed the CMS download issue.
> >>>>
> >>>> What are the details about the Slack channel? This is the first I've
> >>> heard
> >>>> of it.
> >>>>
> >>>> I added the drop-shadow on the "MQ" because on the ActiveMQ 5 project
> >>> page
> >>>> the background behind the image is the same color as the "MQ" and
> >>> therefore
> >>>> it was disappearing. I added the drop-shadow to make it visible. It
> >>>> wouldn't be hard to add a drop-shadow to the whole thing, but I didn't
> >>>> think the drop-shadow on just the "MQ" looked any stranger than it
> being
> >>> a
> >>>> different color in the first place.
> >>>>
> >>>> One thing I'm not really clear on yet is how modifications from the
> >>>> activemq-website repo will be propagated to the actual website. I've
> read
> >>>> about some Apache buildbot thing that might help here, but I don't
> know
> >>>> much about it yet. Anybody else have any clue on how that's supposed
> to
> >>>> work?
> >>>>
> >>>> BTW, I'm working up a PR right now, but I wanted to get as much of it
> >>> right
> >>>> as I could before I sent it.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Justin
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 6:00 PM Michael André Pearce
> >>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> A few bits we need to work on:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think we need to update this, it was extracted from current site,
> >>> but is
> >>>>> out of date.
> >>>>> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/team/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Seems we are missing cms download page
> >>>>> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/projects/cms/download/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On the contact side, there is now a slack channel this should be
> added,
> >>>>> and have the same visibility as IRC (could be added later, but just
> to
> >>> note)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> With the hero sections on the logo side, where drop shadow has been
> >>> added
> >>>>> to the letters in MQ for Apache Active MQ, it looks a bit odd just
> >>> having
> >>>>> MQ drop shadowed, would it be easy to drop shadow it all.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>> <snipped>
> >>>
> >
>
>
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Re: Website

michael.andre.pearce
So the idea we had with Martyn was two ways (pref order):

discuss with infra if could just use github pages hosting, as they do the magic already in github.

Or

Automated build pipeline



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> On 19 Mar 2019, at 05:05, Justin Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Mike, did you have any thoughts on how to get the content in git through
> Jekyll and onto the live website? Right now it's a manual process which is
> fairly tedious, IMO.
>
>
> Justin
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 12:02 AM Michael André Pearce
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> What’s the next steps here, after Justin’s hard work?
>>
>> Would it make sense to vote on the new site to replace the old?
>>
>> If no objections I would be happy to start a vote once the pr is reviewed
>> and merged.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On 18 Mar 2019, at 20:49, Michael André Pearce <
>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> +1000 the drop shadow think it looks better now.
>>>
>>> +1 re linking to the phonebook, also agree with the maintenance point.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here is the slack channel in asf slack group.
>>>
>>> https://the-asf.slack.com/app_redirect?channel=activemq
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 18 Mar 2019, at 19:44, Justin Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I added the drop-shadow the the "Active" in the main logo. Let me know
>> what
>>>> you think.
>>>>
>>>> I agree with Robbie about removing the PMC and committer details. It's
>> an
>>>> unnecessary maintenance burden, and a stale website is a bad look.
>> Here's
>>>> what I propose:
>>>> * Fold the board reports and the PMC/committers links under the "Apache"
>>>> navigation menu.
>>>> * Make the PMC/committers link point to
>>>> https://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=activemq
>>>>
>>>> Robbie, the issue I see with propagating changes in the website is that
>>>> there's an intermediate step where Jekyll needs to render the HTML from
>> the
>>>> markdown, includes, scss, etc. I don't understand how that step is
>> going to
>>>> happen. Ideally it would be an automatic process so that we could check
>> in
>>>> markdown changes via GitHub and those changes would be made live
>>>> automatically.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Justin
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 12:53 PM Robbie Gemmell <
>> [hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> About propagation of changes, what often happens with sites now is
>>>>> that the website (or main) repository contains an 'asf-site' branch
>>>>> that in turn has a 'content' sub-directory within it comprising the
>>>>> live site. Anything outwith that can comprise the site source. The
>>>>> repo is monitored by gitpubsub and whenever changes are committed, the
>>>>> contents dir gets synced to the actual webservers automatically. No
>>>>> build jobs etc needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Robbie
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 15:38, Justin Bertram <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>