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jbertram
I'm totally fine with changing the tag line. I just want it to be crystal
clear.

By "platform" what specifically do you mean? Is that equivalent to having
"all the bits needed"? Is it just a drop-in replacement for "broker"?

One of the most significant features of the brokers is the support for
multiple industry standard protocols (i.e. AMQP, MQTT, STOMP). If you
download either broker distribution you have "all the bits needed" *unless*
you want to use one of these protocols. The brokers only ship Java clients
for their specific protocols (i.e. OpenWire or Core). You have to go to
other sources for all the various protocol/platform clients. That seems a
bit to narrow to be a "platform" in my opinion.


Justin

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 12:54 PM michael.andre.pearce
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> So i dont see activemq as just brokers but delivering a messaging platform
> with all the bits needed.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> -------- Original message --------From: Justin Bertram <
> [hidden email]> Date: 04/03/2019  18:04  (GMT+00:00) To:
> [hidden email] Subject: Re: Website > The current website though
> does have this. I believe people contribute iftheir company uses.In general
> i like.I like the idea of publicizing our users as well as it lends
> credibility tothe project. However, the current list of users [1] includes
> no companylogos and looks like it's mainly small companies, departments
> within acompany or institution or just individuals. There is also this page
> [2],but there are lots of broken links and most of it is probably far out
> ofdate.> Tag line i think i preferred the one martyn had put. It was a
> little moresnappy, also was more generic as project is around messaging.
> not justbrokers (theyre main projects) but also some client projects and
> now alsonative journal project as well.I changed the tag line because
> there's doubt in my mind that we should bepromoting the NMS & CMS clients.
> I started a new DISCUSS thread about thisso we can talk about it more
> there. In short, if we shouldn't promote theNMS & CMS clients (e.g. they're
> no longer maintained) then all we're leftwith is brokers.> Btw i dont see
> any PR?I wanted to discuss a bit about the general direction before I sent
> a PR.Justin[1] http://activemq.apache.org/users.html[2]
> http://activemq.apache.org/projects-using-activemq.htmlOn Mon, Mar 4,
> 2019 at 11:20 AM michael.andre.pearce<[hidden email]>
> wrote:> The current website though does have this. I believe people
> contribute if> their company uses.In general i like. Tag line i think i
> preferred the one> martyn had put. It was a little more snappy, also was
> more generic as> project is around messaging.  not just brokers (theyre
> main projects) but> also some client projects and now also native journal
> project as well.Btw i> dont see any PR?Sent from my Samsung Galaxy
> smartphone.> -------- Original message --------From: Clebert Suconic <>
> [hidden email]> Date: 04/03/2019  14:54  (GMT+00:00) To:>
> [hidden email] Subject: Re: Website This looks ready! What we>
> need to make it official?On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 12:53 PM Justin Bertram <>
> [hidden email]> wrote:>> I added some content to the landing page>
> and pushed it to the staging> website [1]. In general, I tried to
> highlight> what was true for *both*> brokers but also distinguish them to
> make things> clear for users.  I've got> other content changes ready to
> push, but I> wanted to get this out first for> review & discussion.>> In
> case anybody> wonders, I removed the big "Used By" section that was>
> supposed to be full> of company logos for two reasons:>   1) I'm not sure
> we have any concrete> data on that.>   2) It's not clear to me whether or
> not we need permission> to use another> company's logo on our website and
> make claims about their> use of ActiveMQ.>>> Justin>> [1]>
> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at>
> 9:59 AM Andy Taylor <[hidden email]> wrote:>> > I'd be happy to>
> help with adding content, I remember a hackathon was> > mentioned at one>
> point.> >> > Any way since it's now in git it would be great if people>
> could contribute> > so we can have a better website sooner rather than>
> later.> >> > Andy> >> > On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 at 17:19, Martyn Taylor <>
> [hidden email]> wrote:> >> > > The site is uploaded and links
> added.>> > >> > > Note there's currently a sync issue with EU mirrors[1],
> it's> currently> > > being worked on.  To view the changes in the interim,
> use> the US> > mirror[2].> > >> > > Cheers> > > Martyn> > >> > > 1.>
> https://status.apache.org/> > > 2. http://activemq.us.apache.org/> > >>
> >> > On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 4:58 PM Martyn Taylor <[hidden email]>>
> wrote:> > >> > > > I've went ahead and populated the repository, there's a>
> GitHub mirror> > > > here[1].  I've also generated the static content and>
> should have the> > work> > > > in progress hosted under a separately>
> directory and a message on the> > > > homepage shortly.> > > >> > > >>
> Cheers> > > >> > > > 1. https://github.com/apache/activemq-website> > >>
> >> > > >> > > > On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 8:54 PM Bruce Snyder <>
> [hidden email]>> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > >> +1> > > >>> > > >>>
> Bruce> > > >>> > > >> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 2:26 PM Clebert Suconic <> >>
> > >> [hidden email]>> > > >> wrote:> > > >>> > > >> > What>
> about this. WE could :> > > >> >> > > >> > - commit this on git> > > >> >
> -> upload a snapshot for review under our web-site.> > > >> > On Mon, Oct
> 22,> 2018 at 8:46 AM Clebert Suconic> > > >> > <[hidden email]>>
> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > >> > > +1000. We had that options discussed here a>
> few times.  Having the> > > old> > > >> > website somewhere with a link is>
> the way to go for the migration.> > > >> > >> > > >> > > On Mon, Oct 22,>
> 2018 at 7:47 AM michael.andre.pearce <> > > >> >>
> [hidden email]> wrote:> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>>
> Sounds good to me.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Sent from my>
> Samsung Galaxy smartphone.> > > >> > >> -------- Original message>
> --------From: Martyn Taylor <> > > >> > [hidden email]> Date:>
> 22/10/2018  12:38  (GMT+00:00) To:> > > >> > [hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: Website> > > >> > >> How about an equivalent message on the>
> home page of the new> > > website,> > > >> > >> directing users to the old>
> site?> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:39 PM Bruce>
> Snyder <> > > >> [hidden email]>> > > >> > >> wrote:> > > >> >>
> >>> > > >> > >> > Check out the Camel website and the message that they>
> posted> > > about> > > >> > their> > > >> > >> > website changes that are>
> underway:> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > https://camel.apache.org/> > >
> >>> > >> >> > > >> > >> > Bruce> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > On Wed, Oct
> 17,> 2018 at 3:30 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > [hidden email]>> > > >> >>
> wrote:> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 8:38 PM>
> Bruce Snyder <> > > >> > [hidden email]>> > > >> > >> > >
> wrote:>> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Fair points, Martyn. I like the
> idea of> a combination of> > JIRA> > > >> > issues> > > >> > >> > > plus a>
> > > >> >> >> > > > list of those issues that is easily visible somewhere
> such> > as>> > > >> the> > > >> > wiki.> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >
> > Seeing as> how we are moving the website around completely,> > I> > > >>
> > believe we>> > > >> > >> > > > need to include the docs to support the
> older versions> in> > > some> > > >> > way. So,> > > >> > >> > > the> > >
> >> > >> > > >> first thought that came to mind is a search capability in> >
> > order> > >> >> > for> > > >> > >> > users> > > >> > >> > > > to find them
> easier.> Another idea, we could also keep the> > old> > > >> site> > > >> >
> >> >> intact> > > >> > >> > > > and available as a sub-domain or URL,
> e.g.,> > >> >> > 5x.activemq.apache.org,> > > >> > >> > > >
> activemq.apache.org/5.x,> etc. However, the advantage of a> > > >>
> search> > > >> > >> > feature> > >> >> > >> > > > is> > > >> > >> > > >
> that it would be useful across the> site, not just for older> > > >> >
> stuff. We> > > >> > >> > > might> > > >>> > >> > > > even be able structure
> the search to allow users to select> > a>> > > >> > version of> > > >> > >>
> > > the> > > >> > >> > > > docs that they> would like to search. Anyway,
> just some> > > >> thoughts.> > > >> > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > I agree
> that we should try to get the new site> functional> > > ASAP,> > > >> >
> but> > > >> > >> > that> > > >> > >> > > >> should not eliminate the old
> site entirely. We should not> > > >> abandon>> > > >> > users> > > >> > >>
> > > of> > > >> > >> > > > older versions.> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >>
> > > +1 Bruce.> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> I had thought that the
> export of the current site into the> > > >> gitbook>> > > >> > had> > > >>
> > >> > all> > > >> > >> > > the info, but perhaps> there are missing
> pieces.  I like the> > > idea> > > >> of> > > >> > >> >> keeping> > > >> >
> >> > > the old site running and link to it from the new> site.  This> > >
> >> ensures> > > >> > >> > > existing users have all the> info they need,
> but let's us move> > > >> > forward> > > >> > >> > with> >> > >> > >> > >
> new content.  Perhaps we can switch out the exiting home> page> > > for> >
> > >> > the new> > > >> > >> > > one and add a link to old> website AMQ
> project page ("Existing> > > >> users> > > >> > >> > looking> >> > >> > >>
> > > for the original ActiveMQ website click here.").  If we are>> > > able>
> > > >> to> > > >> > get> > > >> > >> > > some stats on number of> accesses
> to a particular page, we can> > > use> > > >> > that> > > >> > >>> > info>
> > > >> > >> > > to prioritise porting older content.> > > >> > >> >> >> > >
> >> > >> > > Search, feature also a good idea, but I'm not sure how> much> >
> > >> effort> > > >> > would> > > >> > >> > be> > > >> > >> > >> involved,
> there is already a search feature in the gitbook> > > >>> document> > > >>
> > >> > (linked> > > >> > >> > > to on the project page).>> > > >> > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> > > How about we fill in the existing> placeholder content and
> add> > > >> links> > > >> > to> > > >> > >> > the>> > > >> > >> > > old
> sites from each project page (and the home page)?  We>> > could> > > >> go>
> > > >> > live> > > >> > >> > > with this?  Then start> working through the
> nice to> > > >> > haves/criticals.  I> > > >> > >> > >> think once we're
> live and the code is available, the> > community> > > >>> will> > > >> >
> be> > > >> > >> > more> > > >> > >> > > inclined to> report/fixing issues.>
> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > Cheers> > > >> > >>> > >> > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > >> > >> > > > Bruce> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >>> > >> > > > On Fri,
> Oct 12, 2018 at 2:44 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > >>> [hidden email]> > >
> >> > >> > > >> > >> > > wrote:> > > >> > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > >
> Cheers gents, looks like we're all set with the git>> > repos.> > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > Shall we start putting> together a ToDo list
> for what> > needs> > > to> > > >> > happen> > > >> >> >> > to> > > >> > >>
> > > > > move to the new site?  JIRA perhaps?> > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > >>
> > >> > > > > Bruce you mentioned a search feature for> older content.> > >
> Can> > > >> you> > > >> > >> > > > elaborate> > > >> >> >> > > > > on
> this.  Also, there's the actual content for the pages,> > >> key> > > >> >
> >> > features,> > > >> > >> > > > > users etc... Perhaps we> can all
> contribute to these?  I> > > could> > > >> > take> > > >> > >> >> care> > >
> >> > >> > > > of> > > >> > >> > > > > the Artemis side of things,> if
> people with more> > experience> > > in> > > >> > NMS,> > > >> > >> >> CMS>
> > > >> > >> > > > and> > > >> > >> > > > > 5.x could come up with some>
> content for the project home> > > >> pages?> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> >>
> >> > > > > I agree with Michael in that it'd be good to get the new> > >>
> site> > > >> > running> > > >> > >> > > > even> > > >> > >> > > > > if
> it's> not 100% perfect then iteratively improve on it.> > > >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> >> > >> > > > > Cheers> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > On
> Thu,> Oct 11, 2018 at 12:56 AM Clebert Suconic <> > > >> > >> > > > >>
> [hidden email]>> > > >> > >> > > > > wrote:> > > >> > >> > >
> >> >> > > >> > >> > > > > > How to delete one now ?> > > >> > >> > > > > >>
> >> > >> > >> > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:55 PM Bruce Snyder <> > >
> >> >> >> > [hidden email]>> > > >> > >> > > > > > wrote:> > > >>
> > >> >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Whoops, I just created one as
> well:> > >> >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >>>
> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-website.git> > > >> > >>
> >> > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Bruce> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >
> >> >> >> > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 8:49 AM Clebert Suconic <> > >
> >> >> >> > > > > > [hidden email]>> > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> wrote:>> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > New repo
> created:> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >>
> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-www.git> > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:47 AM Clebert Suconic> > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > > > <[hidden email]> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > Robbie Gemmel pointed me to> > > >>>
> https://gitbox.apache.org/> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > >>
> > > > > > > I'm trying to create one now:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > On>
> Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:36 AM Clebert Suconic> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
> <> [hidden email]> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >
> >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > That's for Bruce Snyder then...> > > >> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:29 AM Justin Bertram> > <> > > >>
> > >>> > > > > > [hidden email]>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > wrote:> >
> > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > There's a
> "Create> a new Git repository"> > option> > > on> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> https://selfserve.apache.org/.  I clicked it> > > and> > > >> >
> logged> >> > >> > >> > > in,> > > >> > >> > > > > but> > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > >> apparently> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > it's restricted to ASF
> members> and PMC> > chairs.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> >
> > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Justin> > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at
> 9:24 AM> Clebert> > Suconic> > > <> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >>
> [hidden email]>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > >>
> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I create an>
> Infra JIRA for this:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >>>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17124> > > >> > >> > > > > >>
> > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:49 AM Clebert> > > Suconic> > > >> >>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > <[hidden email]> wrote:> > > >> > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I asked infra>
> and no reponse.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Does anyone know any procedure on> > creating> > > a> > >
> >>> > repo at> > > >> > >> > > > > apache?> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> >> >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> I did ask infra about something what to> > > do..> > > >> > but so> >
> > >>> > >> > far> > > >> > >> > > > no> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > response.
> I> >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > know they are busy.. so if anyone
> here> >> > knows> > > >> a> > > >> > better> > > >> > >> > > way> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > to> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > handle> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> this....> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8,
> 2018 at 9:14> AM Clebert> > > >> Suconic> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > <> [hidden email]> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just initiated a thread at
> apache>> > infra> > > >> > list,> > > >> > >> > > asking> > > >> > >> > > >
> > for> >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > guidance on> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >> how to setup things.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> >> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > will keep it posted here.> > > >> > >> >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:01 AM> > > Christopher> >
> > >> >> Shannon> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <>
> [hidden email]>> > wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for getting
> the> website> > > discussion> > > >> > >> > > > restarted.  I> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > > > > think it> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > will be> > > >>
> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > quite beneficial if we can get the> >
> new> > > >>> > website> > > >> > >> > live> > > >> > >> > > > and> > > >> >
> >> > > > > >> > have> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > more> > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> clear> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > information on
> there such as> what> > > Artemis> > > >> > is,> > > >> > >> > etc.> > > >>
> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> On Sat, Oct 6,> 2018 at 9:13 AM> > Clebert> > > >> > Suconic <> > > >> > >>
> > > > > > > > >> > > > [hidden email]>> > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I will handle it next week.> > > >> >
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 5:09
> PM> > Bruce> > > >> >> Snyder <> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> [hidden email]>> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Clebert,> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > It would be very helpful if
> you> > > could> > > >> > create> > >> >> > >> > a> > > >> > >> > > > git> >
> > >> > >> > > > > > repo> > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > for it> > > >> > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > and get> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > source code moved into
> there.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Bruce> > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On> Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 7:58
> AM> > > >> Clebert> > > >> > >> > Suconic> > > >>> > >> > > <> > > >> > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> [hidden email]>> > > >> > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > @Bruce: Anything I
> can do to> > > >> expedie> > >> >> > this?> > > >> > >> > or> > > >> > >> >
> > > you> > > >> > >> > > > > >> are> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > taking> > >
> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> care of> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > the private repo?> >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 1:52 AM>> > > >> > >> > > > > michael.andre.pearce>
> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > <
> [hidden email]> > > >> .invalid>> > > >> > >> >> wrote:> > >
> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > If you noted because its> > using> > > >> >> jekyll i> >
> > >> > >> > > could> > > >> > >> > > > > use> > > >> > >> > > >> > > > >
> github> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > pages.> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > One option is you could host> > it> > > >>> on> > >
> >> > asf> > > >> > >> > git,> > > >> > >> > > > > have> > > >> > >>> > > >
> > > > the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > github> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > clone> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we do with code and then use> > >> github> >
> > >> > pages,> > > >> > >> > > > simply> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > asking
> infra> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > to have> > > >> > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > sub
> domain point to the github> > > >> pages.> > > >> > Not> > > >> >> >> > >
> sure> > > >> > >> > > > if> > > >> > >> > > > > > > thats> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > > > > > > > > allowed or not,> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > but> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if it is> probably
> easiest.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >>> > >> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy> > > >> > smartphone.> > > >> >> >> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------- Original message> > > >> >>
> --------From:> > > >> > >> > > Bruce> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Snyder> > >>
> >> > >> > > > > > > > <> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> [hidden email]> Date:> > > >> > 02/10/2018> > > >> > >> > > >>
> 21:11> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > (GMT+00:00)> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > To:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
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> >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Great job, MIchael! I
> like> >> the> > > >> look> > > >> > of> > > >> > >> > this> > > >> > >> > >
> > >> site.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's certainly work to be> > > done>
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bruce> > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > On Tue, Oct
> 2, 2018 at 8:40> > AM> > > >> > >> > > > > >> michael.andre.pearce> > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <> [hidden email]>
> > > >> > .invalid>> > > >> > >> > > wrote:>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > I just wanted to get the> > ball> > > >>> > rolling> > > >> > >> > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > discussion,> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some great> progress made on> > > the> >
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> > >  design based on bootstrap> > > >> which> > > >>> > looks> > > >> > >>
> > > > pretty> > > >> > >> > > > > > > nice> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > on
> both> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > mobile> > > >>> > >> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > current site by Bruce> > > already,> > > >> > and> now> > >
> >> > >> > > > lives> > > >> > >> > > > > > > under> > > >> > >> >> > > > >
> > > the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > documentation> >> > >> >
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> > > > > > > > > > on the ActiveMQ 5 project> > > page.> > > >> > >> >> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > There's obviously still> > some> > > >> work> > > >> > to do> >> >
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> > > > > > > > > > send now to> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
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> > > > input> > > >> > >> > > > > > > on> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >>
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> happen> to> > > make> > > >> > this> > > >> > >> > > live.> > > >> > >> > >
> > >> I'd> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > prefer not> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > to spend> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months> > >
> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trying to get this perfect,>
> > >> but> > > >> > if we> > > >> > >> > > could> > > >> > >> > > > > get> >
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> > > time.> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >>
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I'd love to here your> > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > The code is here:> > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > >>>
> https://github.com/michaelandrepearce/activemq-website/> > > >> > >> > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And a demohttps://> > > >> > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > > michaelandrepearce.github.io/activemq-website> > > >>
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> > >> > > > > > > > > Regards> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael> > > >> >
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> > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent
> from my> Samsung Galaxy> > > >> > smartphone.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
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> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> ActiveMQ> in Action:> > > >> > http://bit.ly/2je6cQ> > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <> > > >> > >> > >
> > >> http://bruceblog.org/> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Twitter:> > > >> >
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> >> >> > >> > > > > > );'> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ActiveMQ in Action:> > > >> >>
> http://bit.ly/2je6cQ> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blog:>
> http://bsnyder.org/ <> > > >> > >> > > http://bruceblog.org/> > > >> >
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> >> >> > >> > > > > );'> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > >>
> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Blog:>
> http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>> > > >> > >> > > > > > >>
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >>>
> > >> > > > > > --> > > >> > >> > > > > > Clebert Suconic> > > >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >> >
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> >> >> > >> > );'> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > ActiveMQ in Action:>
> http://bit.ly/2je6cQ> > > >> > >> > > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <>
> http://bruceblog.org/>> > > >> > >> > > > Twitter:>
> http://twitter.com/brucesnyder> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > --> > > >> > >> > perl -e 'print>
> >> > >> > >> >> > > >>>
> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"> > >>
> >> > );'> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > ActiveMQ in Action:>
> http://bit.ly/2je6cQ> > > >> > >> > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <>
> http://bruceblog.org/>> > > >> > >> > Twitter:>
> http://twitter.com/brucesnyder> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >
> -->> > > >> > > Clebert Suconic> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > -->
> > >> >> > Clebert Suconic> > > >> >> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> --> > > >> perl
> -e> 'print> > > >>>
> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"> >>
> );'> > > >>> > > >> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ> > > >>>
> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>> > > >> Twitter:>
> http://twitter.com/brucesnyder> > > >>> > > >> > >> >-- Clebert Suconic
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What i mean is that we are providing not just a broker, nor just limit our scope (today, past or future) to just being a broker.

e.g. we provide (currently embedded)

admin console
libaio java journal (and in future other native features)
provide core java clients
provide open wire java clients







> On 4 Mar 2019, at 19:31, Justin Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I'm totally fine with changing the tag line. I just want it to be crystal
> clear.
>
> By "platform" what specifically do you mean? Is that equivalent to having
> "all the bits needed"? Is it just a drop-in replacement for "broker"?
>
> One of the most significant features of the brokers is the support for
> multiple industry standard protocols (i.e. AMQP, MQTT, STOMP). If you
> download either broker distribution you have "all the bits needed" *unless*
> you want to use one of these protocols. The brokers only ship Java clients
> for their specific protocols (i.e. OpenWire or Core). You have to go to
> other sources for all the various protocol/platform clients. That seems a
> bit to narrow to be a "platform" in my opinion.
>
>
> Justin
>
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 12:54 PM michael.andre.pearce
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> So i dont see activemq as just brokers but delivering a messaging platform
>> with all the bits needed.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>> -------- Original message --------From: Justin Bertram <
>> [hidden email]> Date: 04/03/2019  18:04  (GMT+00:00) To:
>> [hidden email] Subject: Re: Website > The current website though
>> does have this. I believe people contribute iftheir company uses.In general
>> i like.I like the idea of publicizing our users as well as it lends
>> credibility tothe project. However, the current list of users [1] includes
>> no companylogos and looks like it's mainly small companies, departments
>> within acompany or institution or just individuals. There is also this page
>> [2],but there are lots of broken links and most of it is probably far out
>> ofdate.> Tag line i think i preferred the one martyn had put. It was a
>> little moresnappy, also was more generic as project is around messaging.
>> not justbrokers (theyre main projects) but also some client projects and
>> now alsonative journal project as well.I changed the tag line because
>> there's doubt in my mind that we should bepromoting the NMS & CMS clients.
>> I started a new DISCUSS thread about thisso we can talk about it more
>> there. In short, if we shouldn't promote theNMS & CMS clients (e.g. they're
>> no longer maintained) then all we're leftwith is brokers.> Btw i dont see
>> any PR?I wanted to discuss a bit about the general direction before I sent
>> a PR.Justin[1] http://activemq.apache.org/users.html[2]
>> http://activemq.apache.org/projects-using-activemq.htmlOn Mon, Mar 4,
>> 2019 at 11:20 AM michael.andre.pearce<[hidden email]>
>> wrote:> The current website though does have this. I believe people
>> contribute if> their company uses.In general i like. Tag line i think i
>> preferred the one> martyn had put. It was a little more snappy, also was
>> more generic as> project is around messaging.  not just brokers (theyre
>> main projects) but> also some client projects and now also native journal
>> project as well.Btw i> dont see any PR?Sent from my Samsung Galaxy
>> smartphone.> -------- Original message --------From: Clebert Suconic <>
>> [hidden email]> Date: 04/03/2019  14:54  (GMT+00:00) To:>
>> [hidden email] Subject: Re: Website This looks ready! What we>
>> need to make it official?On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 12:53 PM Justin Bertram <>
>> [hidden email]> wrote:>> I added some content to the landing page>
>> and pushed it to the staging> website [1]. In general, I tried to
>> highlight> what was true for *both*> brokers but also distinguish them to
>> make things> clear for users.  I've got> other content changes ready to
>> push, but I> wanted to get this out first for> review & discussion.>> In
>> case anybody> wonders, I removed the big "Used By" section that was>
>> supposed to be full> of company logos for two reasons:>   1) I'm not sure
>> we have any concrete> data on that.>   2) It's not clear to me whether or
>> not we need permission> to use another> company's logo on our website and
>> make claims about their> use of ActiveMQ.>>> Justin>> [1]>
>> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at>
>> 9:59 AM Andy Taylor <[hidden email]> wrote:>> > I'd be happy to>
>> help with adding content, I remember a hackathon was> > mentioned at one>
>> point.> >> > Any way since it's now in git it would be great if people>
>> could contribute> > so we can have a better website sooner rather than>
>> later.> >> > Andy> >> > On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 at 17:19, Martyn Taylor <>
>> [hidden email]> wrote:> >> > > The site is uploaded and links
>> added.>> > >> > > Note there's currently a sync issue with EU mirrors[1],
>> it's> currently> > > being worked on.  To view the changes in the interim,
>> use> the US> > mirror[2].> > >> > > Cheers> > > Martyn> > >> > > 1.>
>> https://status.apache.org/> > > 2. http://activemq.us.apache.org/> > >>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 4:58 PM Martyn Taylor <[hidden email]>>
>> wrote:> > >> > > > I've went ahead and populated the repository, there's a>
>> GitHub mirror> > > > here[1].  I've also generated the static content and>
>> should have the> > work> > > > in progress hosted under a separately>
>> directory and a message on the> > > > homepage shortly.> > > >> > > >>
>> Cheers> > > >> > > > 1. https://github.com/apache/activemq-website> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 8:54 PM Bruce Snyder <>
>> [hidden email]>> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > >> +1> > > >>> > > >>>
>> Bruce> > > >>> > > >> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 2:26 PM Clebert Suconic <> >>
>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > >> wrote:> > > >>> > > >> > What>
>> about this. WE could :> > > >> >> > > >> > - commit this on git> > > >> >
>> -> upload a snapshot for review under our web-site.> > > >> > On Mon, Oct
>> 22,> 2018 at 8:46 AM Clebert Suconic> > > >> > <[hidden email]>>
>> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > >> > > +1000. We had that options discussed here a>
>> few times.  Having the> > > old> > > >> > website somewhere with a link is>
>> the way to go for the migration.> > > >> > >> > > >> > > On Mon, Oct 22,>
>> 2018 at 7:47 AM michael.andre.pearce <> > > >> >>
>> [hidden email]> wrote:> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>>
>> Sounds good to me.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Sent from my>
>> Samsung Galaxy smartphone.> > > >> > >> -------- Original message>
>> --------From: Martyn Taylor <> > > >> > [hidden email]> Date:>
>> 22/10/2018  12:38  (GMT+00:00) To:> > > >> > [hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: Website> > > >> > >> How about an equivalent message on the>
>> home page of the new> > > website,> > > >> > >> directing users to the old>
>> site?> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:39 PM Bruce>
>> Snyder <> > > >> [hidden email]>> > > >> > >> wrote:> > > >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Check out the Camel website and the message that they>
>> posted> > > about> > > >> > their> > > >> > >> > website changes that are>
>> underway:> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > https://camel.apache.org/> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > On Wed, Oct
>> 17,> 2018 at 3:30 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > [hidden email]>> > > >> >>
>> wrote:> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 8:38 PM>
>> Bruce Snyder <> > > >> > [hidden email]>> > > >> > >> > >
>> wrote:>> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Fair points, Martyn. I like the
>> idea of> a combination of> > JIRA> > > >> > issues> > > >> > >> > > plus a>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> list of those issues that is easily visible somewhere
>> such> > as>> > > >> the> > > >> > wiki.> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >
>>> Seeing as> how we are moving the website around completely,> > I> > > >>
>>> believe we>> > > >> > >> > > > need to include the docs to support the
>> older versions> in> > > some> > > >> > way. So,> > > >> > >> > > the> > >
>>>>>>>>>>> first thought that came to mind is a search capability in> >
>>> order> > >> >> > for> > > >> > >> > users> > > >> > >> > > > to find them
>> easier.> Another idea, we could also keep the> > old> > > >> site> > > >> >
>>>>>> intact> > > >> > >> > > > and available as a sub-domain or URL,
>> e.g.,> > >> >> > 5x.activemq.apache.org,> > > >> > >> > > >
>> activemq.apache.org/5.x,> etc. However, the advantage of a> > > >>
>> search> > > >> > >> > feature> > >> >> > >> > > > is> > > >> > >> > > >
>> that it would be useful across the> site, not just for older> > > >> >
>> stuff. We> > > >> > >> > > might> > > >>> > >> > > > even be able structure
>> the search to allow users to select> > a>> > > >> > version of> > > >> > >>
>>>> the> > > >> > >> > > > docs that they> would like to search. Anyway,
>> just some> > > >> thoughts.> > > >> > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > I agree
>> that we should try to get the new site> functional> > > ASAP,> > > >> >
>> but> > > >> > >> > that> > > >> > >> > > >> should not eliminate the old
>> site entirely. We should not> > > >> abandon>> > > >> > users> > > >> > >>
>>>> of> > > >> > >> > > > older versions.> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >>
>>>> +1 Bruce.> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> I had thought that the
>> export of the current site into the> > > >> gitbook>> > > >> > had> > > >>
>>>>>> all> > > >> > >> > > the info, but perhaps> there are missing
>> pieces.  I like the> > > idea> > > >> of> > > >> > >> >> keeping> > > >> >
>>>>>> the old site running and link to it from the new> site.  This> > >
>>>> ensures> > > >> > >> > > existing users have all the> info they need,
>> but let's us move> > > >> > forward> > > >> > >> > with> >> > >> > >> > >
>> new content.  Perhaps we can switch out the exiting home> page> > > for> >
>>>>>> the new> > > >> > >> > > one and add a link to old> website AMQ
>> project page ("Existing> > > >> users> > > >> > >> > looking> >> > >> > >>
>>>> for the original ActiveMQ website click here.").  If we are>> > > able>
>>>>>> to> > > >> > get> > > >> > >> > > some stats on number of> accesses
>> to a particular page, we can> > > use> > > >> > that> > > >> > >>> > info>
>>>>>>>>>>> to prioritise porting older content.> > > >> > >> >> >> > >
>>>>>>>>> Search, feature also a good idea, but I'm not sure how> much> >
>>>>> effort> > > >> > would> > > >> > >> > be> > > >> > >> > >> involved,
>> there is already a search feature in the gitbook> > > >>> document> > > >>
>>>>>> (linked> > > >> > >> > > to on the project page).>> > > >> > >> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> How about we fill in the existing> placeholder content and
>> add> > > >> links> > > >> > to> > > >> > >> > the>> > > >> > >> > > old
>> sites from each project page (and the home page)?  We>> > could> > > >> go>
>>>>>>> live> > > >> > >> > > with this?  Then start> working through the
>> nice to> > > >> > haves/criticals.  I> > > >> > >> > >> think once we're
>> live and the code is available, the> > community> > > >>> will> > > >> >
>> be> > > >> > >> > more> > > >> > >> > > inclined to> report/fixing issues.>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers> > > >> > >>> > >> > > >> > >> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >>> > >> > > > On Fri,
>> Oct 12, 2018 at 2:44 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > >>> [hidden email]> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > >> > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > >
>> Cheers gents, looks like we're all set with the git>> > repos.> > > >> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shall we start putting> together a ToDo list
>> for what> > needs> > > to> > > >> > happen> > > >> >> >> > to> > > >> > >>
>>>>>> move to the new site?  JIRA perhaps?> > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > >>
>>>>>>>>> Bruce you mentioned a search feature for> older content.> > >
>> Can> > > >> you> > > >> > >> > > > elaborate> > > >> >> >> > > > > on
>> this.  Also, there's the actual content for the pages,> > >> key> > > >> >
>>>>> features,> > > >> > >> > > > > users etc... Perhaps we> can all
>> contribute to these?  I> > > could> > > >> > take> > > >> > >> >> care> > >
>>>>>>>>>> of> > > >> > >> > > > > the Artemis side of things,> if
>> people with more> > experience> > > in> > > >> > NMS,> > > >> > >> >> CMS>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and> > > >> > >> > > > > 5.x could come up with some>
>> content for the project home> > > >> pages?> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> >>
>>>>>>>> I agree with Michael in that it'd be good to get the new> > >>
>> site> > > >> > running> > > >> > >> > > > even> > > >> > >> > > > > if
>> it's> not 100% perfect then iteratively improve on it.> > > >> > >> > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > On
>> Thu,> Oct 11, 2018 at 12:56 AM Clebert Suconic <> > > >> > >> > > > >>
>> [hidden email]>> > > >> > >> > > > > wrote:> > > >> > >> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How to delete one now ?> > > >> > >> > > > > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:55 PM Bruce Snyder <> > >
>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > >> > >> > > > > > wrote:> > > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whoops, I just created one as
>> well:> > >> >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >>>
>> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-website.git> > > >> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 8:49 AM Clebert Suconic <> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > >> > >> > > > > > >
>> wrote:>> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > New repo
>> created:> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >>
>> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-www.git> > > >> > >> > >
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:47 AM Clebert Suconic> > > >> > >> > >
>>>>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robbie Gemmel pointed me to> > > >>>
>> https://gitbox.apache.org/> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > >>
>>>>>>>> I'm trying to create one now:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > On>
>> Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:36 AM Clebert Suconic> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
>> <> [hidden email]> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's for Bruce Snyder then...> > > >> > >> > >
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:29 AM Justin Bertram> > <> > > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > wrote:> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's a
>> "Create> a new Git repository"> > option> > > on> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
>>>>>> https://selfserve.apache.org/.  I clicked it> > > and> > > >> >
>> logged> >> > >> > >> > > in,> > > >> > >> > > > > but> > > >> > >> > > > >
>>>>>> apparently> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > it's restricted to ASF
>> members> and PMC> > chairs.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Justin> > > >> > >> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at
>> 9:24 AM> Clebert> > Suconic> > > <> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >>
>> [hidden email]>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I create an>
>> Infra JIRA for this:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17124> > > >> > >> > > > > >>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:49 AM Clebert> > > Suconic> > > >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:> > > >> > >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked infra>
>> and no reponse.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know any procedure on> > creating> > > a> > >
>>>>>> repo at> > > >> > >> > > > > apache?> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> I did ask infra about something what to> > > do..> > > >> > but so> >
>>>>>>>>>> far> > > >> > >> > > > no> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > response.
>> I> >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > know they are busy.. so if anyone
>> here> >> > knows> > > >> a> > > >> > better> > > >> > >> > > way> > > >> >
>>>>>>>>> to> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > handle> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> this....> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8,
>> 2018 at 9:14> AM Clebert> > > >> Suconic> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> <> [hidden email]> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just initiated a thread at
>> apache>> > infra> > > >> > list,> > > >> > >> > > asking> > > >> > >> > > >
>>> for> >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > guidance on> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> how to setup things.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will keep it posted here.> > > >> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:01 AM> > > Christopher> >
>>>>>>> Shannon> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <>
>> [hidden email]>> > wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for getting
>> the> website> > > discussion> > > >> > >> > > > restarted.  I> > > >> > >>
>>>>>>>>>> think it> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > will be> > > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite beneficial if we can get the> >
>> new> > > >>> > website> > > >> > >> > live> > > >> > >> > > > and> > > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>> have> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > more> > > >> > >> > > > > >
>>>>>>>>> clear> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > information on
>> there such as> what> > > Artemis> > > >> > is,> > > >> > >> > etc.> > > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> On Sat, Oct 6,> 2018 at 9:13 AM> > Clebert> > > >> > Suconic <> > > >> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > >> > >> > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will handle it next week.> > > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 5:09
>> PM> > Bruce> > > >> >> Snyder <> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> [hidden email]>> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Clebert,> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be very helpful if
>> you> > > could> > > >> > create> > >> >> > >> > a> > > >> > >> > > > git> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> repo> > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > for it> > > >> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> and get> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > source code moved into
>> there.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On> Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 7:58
>> AM> > > >> Clebert> > > >> > >> > Suconic> > > >>> > >> > > <> > > >> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > >> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Bruce: Anything I
>> can do to> > > >> expedie> > >> >> > this?> > > >> > >> > or> > > >> > >> >
>>>> you> > > >> > >> > > > > >> are> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > taking> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care of> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>> the private repo?> >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 1:52 AM>> > > >> > >> > > > > michael.andre.pearce>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>> [hidden email]> > > >> .invalid>> > > >> > >> >> wrote:> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you noted because its> > using> > > >> >> jekyll i> >
>>>>>>>>>> could> > > >> > >> > > > > use> > > >> > >> > > >> > > > >
>> github> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > pages.> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One option is you could host> > it> > > >>> on> > >
>>>>> asf> > > >> > >> > git,> > > >> > >> > > > > have> > > >> > >>> > > >
>>>>> the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > github> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >
>>>> clone> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like> > > >> >> >> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we do with code and then use> > >> github> >
>>>>>> pages,> > > >> > >> > > > simply> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > asking
>> infra> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > to have> > > >> > >> > >> > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>> the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > sub
>> domain point to the github> > > >> pages.> > > >> > Not> > > >> >> >> > >
>> sure> > > >> > >> > > > if> > > >> > >> > > > > > > thats> > > >> >> >> > >
>>>>>>>>>>> allowed or not,> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
>>>> but> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if it is> probably
>> easiest.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >>> > >> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy> > > >> > smartphone.> > > >> >> >> > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------- Original message> > > >> >>
>> --------From:> > > >> > >> > > Bruce> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Snyder> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
>> [hidden email]> Date:> > > >> > 02/10/2018> > > >> > >> > > >>
>> 21:11> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > (GMT+00:00)> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
>>>>>> To:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
>> [hidden email]> > Subject:> > > >> Re:> > > >> > >> > Website>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great job, MIchael! I
>> like> >> the> > > >> look> > > >> > of> > > >> > >> > this> > > >> > >> > >
>>>>> site.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's certainly work to be> > > done>
>>>>>>>> as you> > > >> > >> > > > > > mentioned,> > > >> > >> > > > > > >
>>> so I>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > don't think> > > >> > >> > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> can> > > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > take the place of the
>> current> > >> >> site> > > >> > 100%> > > >> > >> > > just> > > >> > >> > >
>>>>> yet. I>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > agree> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
>>>>> that it>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does> > > >> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>> need> to be perfect, but we> > need> > > >> to> > > >> > >> >
>> provide> > > >> >> >> > > an> > > >> > >> > > > > > easy> > > >> > >> > > >
>>>>>> way to> >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > find the> > > >> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information we know exists> > via> > >
>>>>> search> > > >> >> >> > > > > > functionality> > > >> > >> > > > > > >
>>> or> > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > something.> > > >> > >> > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> The first action should> be to> > > >> move> > > >> > the> > > >> > >> > >
>> source> > > >> > >> > > >> > > into> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > an ASF> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git repo so> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>> that> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> everyone has access to it,> > > >>> allowing> > > >> > >> > others> > > >>
>>>>>>> to> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > contribute.> > > >> > >> > > > > >
>>>>>>>> This will> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > allow>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us to deploy straight
>> from> > the> > > >> git> > > >> > repo> > >> >> > >> > at> > > >> > >> > >
>>> some> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > point,> too.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Has
>> anyone recently> > > investigated> > > >> >> how to> > > >> > >> > > >
>> deploy> > > >> > >> > > > > a> > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > static> > > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website from> > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>> a> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > git> > > >> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repo to the> sub-domain at the> > > >>
>> ASF?> > > >> > If> > > >> > >> > not,> > > >> >> >> > > I> > > >> > >> > >
>>>> will> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > dig into> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >
>>>>> it.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct
>> 2, 2018 at 8:40> > AM> > > >> > >> > > > > >> michael.andre.pearce> > > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <> [hidden email]>
>>>>>>> .invalid>> > > >> > >> > > wrote:>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,> > > >> > >> > > > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> I just wanted to get the> > ball> > > >>> > rolling> > > >> > >> > >
>> again> > > >> > >> > > > > on> > > >> > >> > > >> > > > this> > > >> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion,> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> we've> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > made> > > >> > >> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some great> progress made on> > > the> >
>>>>>> initial> > > >> > >> > > > code> > > >>> > >> > > > > > base> > > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> we> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > started a> > > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>> back,> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> we've created a responsive> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> design based on bootstrap> > > >> which> > > >>> > looks> > > >> > >>
>>>>> pretty> > > >> > >> > > > > > > nice> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > on
>> both> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > mobile> > > >>> > >> > > > > > > >
>>>>>>>>>> and> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
>> desktop, bringing us into> > > 2018> > > >> > ;).  All> > >> >> > >> > >
>> the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > content was> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > >
>>>> exported> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from> > >> >> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >
>>>>>>>>> current site by Bruce> > > already,> > > >> > and> now> > >
>>>>>>>>>> lives> > > >> > >> > > > > > > under> > > >> > >> >> > > > >
>>>> the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > documentation> >> > >> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > >
>>>>>>>>>>> on the ActiveMQ 5 project> > > page.> > > >> > >> >> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's obviously still> > some> > > >> work> > > >> > to do> >> >
>>>>>>>>>> but I> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > wanted to> > > >> > >> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> send now to> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
>> get> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some early feedback>
>> and> > > >> hopefully> > > >> > get> > > >> > >> > > some> > > >> > >> > >>
>>>>> input> > > >> > >> > > > > > > on> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >>
>> content for the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > home> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pages for each project.> >
>> What>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  do need to have
>> happen> to> > > make> > > >> > this> > > >> > >> > > live.> > > >> > >> > >
>>>>> I'd> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > prefer not> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
>>>>>> to spend> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to get this perfect,>
>>>>> but> > > >> > if we> > > >> > >> > > could> > > >> > >> > > > > get> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > MVP for> > > >> > >> >
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>> );'> > > >>> > > >> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ> > > >>>
>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>> > > >> Twitter:>
>> http://twitter.com/brucesnyder> > > >>> > > >> > >> >-- Clebert Suconic

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Re: Website

jbertram
For the sake of discussion, ActiveMQ has historically been self-defined as
a:

  - "Message Bus" [1]
  - "Message Broker" [2]
  - "Message Broker and Enterprise Integration Patterns provider" [3]
  - "Enterprise Messaging and Integration Patterns provider" [4]
  - "messaging and Integration Patterns provider" [5]
  - "messaging and Integration Patterns server" [6]

I don't think "provider" is a good word at this point as it connotes some
kind of service (e.g. a "cloud provider") and may be confusing.  I think
"server" and "broker" would work fine as I don't think either of these
exclude the inclusion of a client (e.g. "Java Application Server"
implementations have always shipped various clients for remote EJB, JNDI,
etc.). In my opinion, the term "platform" connotes a place where you run
your application code, which ActiveMQ is not. There are certainly places
for user code to run (e.g. interceptors, plugins), but that code is to
serve the broader purpose of the server/broker as an integration point.
Then again, maybe my opinion is in the minority. I'm willing to be
convinced. Perhaps there are other good options we aren't considering.

I don't want to artificially limit where the project can go in the future,
but I also want to call it what it is and it hasn't really departed from
its historical legacy.


Justin

[1]
https://web.archive.org/web/20070207075756/http://activemq.apache.org/home.html
[2]
https://web.archive.org/web/20070209012918/http://activemq.apache.org:80/home.html
[3]
https://web.archive.org/web/20071028065449/http://activemq.apache.org:80/home.html
[4]
https://web.archive.org/web/20090515003638/http://activemq.apache.org:80/home.html
[5]
https://web.archive.org/web/20090926130536/http://activemq.apache.org:80/index.html
[6]
https://web.archive.org/web/20130116192009/http://activemq.apache.org/home.html

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 1:37 PM Michael André Pearce
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> What i mean is that we are providing not just a broker, nor just limit our
> scope (today, past or future) to just being a broker.
>
> e.g. we provide (currently embedded)
>
> admin console
> libaio java journal (and in future other native features)
> provide core java clients
> provide open wire java clients
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 4 Mar 2019, at 19:31, Justin Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > I'm totally fine with changing the tag line. I just want it to be crystal
> > clear.
> >
> > By "platform" what specifically do you mean? Is that equivalent to having
> > "all the bits needed"? Is it just a drop-in replacement for "broker"?
> >
> > One of the most significant features of the brokers is the support for
> > multiple industry standard protocols (i.e. AMQP, MQTT, STOMP). If you
> > download either broker distribution you have "all the bits needed"
> *unless*
> > you want to use one of these protocols. The brokers only ship Java
> clients
> > for their specific protocols (i.e. OpenWire or Core). You have to go to
> > other sources for all the various protocol/platform clients. That seems a
> > bit to narrow to be a "platform" in my opinion.
> >
> >
> > Justin
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 12:54 PM michael.andre.pearce
> > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >> So i dont see activemq as just brokers but delivering a messaging
> platform
> >> with all the bits needed.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> >> -------- Original message --------From: Justin Bertram <
> >> [hidden email]> Date: 04/03/2019  18:04  (GMT+00:00) To:
> >> [hidden email] Subject: Re: Website > The current website
> though
> >> does have this. I believe people contribute iftheir company uses.In
> general
> >> i like.I like the idea of publicizing our users as well as it lends
> >> credibility tothe project. However, the current list of users [1]
> includes
> >> no companylogos and looks like it's mainly small companies, departments
> >> within acompany or institution or just individuals. There is also this
> page
> >> [2],but there are lots of broken links and most of it is probably far
> out
> >> ofdate.> Tag line i think i preferred the one martyn had put. It was a
> >> little moresnappy, also was more generic as project is around messaging.
> >> not justbrokers (theyre main projects) but also some client projects and
> >> now alsonative journal project as well.I changed the tag line because
> >> there's doubt in my mind that we should bepromoting the NMS & CMS
> clients.
> >> I started a new DISCUSS thread about thisso we can talk about it more
> >> there. In short, if we shouldn't promote theNMS & CMS clients (e.g.
> they're
> >> no longer maintained) then all we're leftwith is brokers.> Btw i dont
> see
> >> any PR?I wanted to discuss a bit about the general direction before I
> sent
> >> a PR.Justin[1] http://activemq.apache.org/users.html[2]
> >> http://activemq.apache.org/projects-using-activemq.htmlOn Mon, Mar 4,
> >> 2019 at 11:20 AM
> michael.andre.pearce<[hidden email]>
> >> wrote:> The current website though does have this. I believe people
> >> contribute if> their company uses.In general i like. Tag line i think i
> >> preferred the one> martyn had put. It was a little more snappy, also was
> >> more generic as> project is around messaging.  not just brokers (theyre
> >> main projects) but> also some client projects and now also native
> journal
> >> project as well.Btw i> dont see any PR?Sent from my Samsung Galaxy
> >> smartphone.> -------- Original message --------From: Clebert Suconic <>
> >> [hidden email]> Date: 04/03/2019  14:54  (GMT+00:00) To:>
> >> [hidden email] Subject: Re: Website This looks ready! What we>
> >> need to make it official?On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 12:53 PM Justin Bertram
> <>
> >> [hidden email]> wrote:>> I added some content to the landing page>
> >> and pushed it to the staging> website [1]. In general, I tried to
> >> highlight> what was true for *both*> brokers but also distinguish them
> to
> >> make things> clear for users.  I've got> other content changes ready to
> >> push, but I> wanted to get this out first for> review & discussion.>> In
> >> case anybody> wonders, I removed the big "Used By" section that was>
> >> supposed to be full> of company logos for two reasons:>   1) I'm not
> sure
> >> we have any concrete> data on that.>   2) It's not clear to me whether
> or
> >> not we need permission> to use another> company's logo on our website
> and
> >> make claims about their> use of ActiveMQ.>>> Justin>> [1]>
> >> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at>
> >> 9:59 AM Andy Taylor <[hidden email]> wrote:>> > I'd be happy
> to>
> >> help with adding content, I remember a hackathon was> > mentioned at
> one>
> >> point.> >> > Any way since it's now in git it would be great if people>
> >> could contribute> > so we can have a better website sooner rather than>
> >> later.> >> > Andy> >> > On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 at 17:19, Martyn Taylor <>
> >> [hidden email]> wrote:> >> > > The site is uploaded and links
> >> added.>> > >> > > Note there's currently a sync issue with EU
> mirrors[1],
> >> it's> currently> > > being worked on.  To view the changes in the
> interim,
> >> use> the US> > mirror[2].> > >> > > Cheers> > > Martyn> > >> > > 1.>
> >> https://status.apache.org/> > > 2. http://activemq.us.apache.org/> > >>
> >>>>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 4:58 PM Martyn Taylor <[hidden email]>>
> >> wrote:> > >> > > > I've went ahead and populated the repository,
> there's a>
> >> GitHub mirror> > > > here[1].  I've also generated the static content
> and>
> >> should have the> > work> > > > in progress hosted under a separately>
> >> directory and a message on the> > > > homepage shortly.> > > >> > > >>
> >> Cheers> > > >> > > > 1. https://github.com/apache/activemq-website> >
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 8:54 PM Bruce Snyder <>
> >> [hidden email]>> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > >> +1> > > >>> > >
> >>>
> >> Bruce> > > >>> > > >> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 2:26 PM Clebert Suconic
> <> >>
> >>>>> [hidden email]>> > > >> wrote:> > > >>> > > >> > What>
> >> about this. WE could :> > > >> >> > > >> > - commit this on git> > > >>
> >
> >> -> upload a snapshot for review under our web-site.> > > >> > On Mon,
> Oct
> >> 22,> 2018 at 8:46 AM Clebert Suconic> > > >> > <
> [hidden email]>>
> >> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > >> > > +1000. We had that options discussed
> here a>
> >> few times.  Having the> > > old> > > >> > website somewhere with a link
> is>
> >> the way to go for the migration.> > > >> > >> > > >> > > On Mon, Oct
> 22,>
> >> 2018 at 7:47 AM michael.andre.pearce <> > > >> >>
> >> [hidden email]> wrote:> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>>
> >> Sounds good to me.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Sent from my>
> >> Samsung Galaxy smartphone.> > > >> > >> -------- Original message>
> >> --------From: Martyn Taylor <> > > >> > [hidden email]> Date:>
> >> 22/10/2018  12:38  (GMT+00:00) To:> > > >> > [hidden email]>
> >> Subject: Re: Website> > > >> > >> How about an equivalent message on
> the>
> >> home page of the new> > > website,> > > >> > >> directing users to the
> old>
> >> site?> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:39 PM Bruce>
> >> Snyder <> > > >> [hidden email]>> > > >> > >> wrote:> > > >> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Check out the Camel website and the message that they>
> >> posted> > > about> > > >> > their> > > >> > >> > website changes that
> are>
> >> underway:> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > https://camel.apache.org/> > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > On Wed, Oct
> >> 17,> 2018 at 3:30 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > [hidden email]>> > > >>
> >>
> >> wrote:> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 8:38 PM>
> >> Bruce Snyder <> > > >> > [hidden email]>> > > >> > >> > >
> >> wrote:>> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Fair points, Martyn. I like
> the
> >> idea of> a combination of> > JIRA> > > >> > issues> > > >> > >> > >
> plus a>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> list of those issues that is easily visible somewhere
> >> such> > as>> > > >> the> > > >> > wiki.> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >>
> > >
> >>> Seeing as> how we are moving the website around completely,> > I> > >
> >>
> >>> believe we>> > > >> > >> > > > need to include the docs to support the
> >> older versions> in> > > some> > > >> > way. So,> > > >> > >> > > the> >
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> first thought that came to mind is a search capability in> >
> >>> order> > >> >> > for> > > >> > >> > users> > > >> > >> > > > to find
> them
> >> easier.> Another idea, we could also keep the> > old> > > >> site> > >
> >> >
> >>>>>> intact> > > >> > >> > > > and available as a sub-domain or URL,
> >> e.g.,> > >> >> > 5x.activemq.apache.org,> > > >> > >> > > >
> >> activemq.apache.org/5.x,> etc. However, the advantage of a> > > >>
> >> search> > > >> > >> > feature> > >> >> > >> > > > is> > > >> > >> > > >
> >> that it would be useful across the> site, not just for older> > > >> >
> >> stuff. We> > > >> > >> > > might> > > >>> > >> > > > even be able
> structure
> >> the search to allow users to select> > a>> > > >> > version of> > > >>
> > >>
> >>>> the> > > >> > >> > > > docs that they> would like to search. Anyway,
> >> just some> > > >> thoughts.> > > >> > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > I
> agree
> >> that we should try to get the new site> functional> > > ASAP,> > > >> >
> >> but> > > >> > >> > that> > > >> > >> > > >> should not eliminate the old
> >> site entirely. We should not> > > >> abandon>> > > >> > users> > > >> >
> >>
> >>>> of> > > >> > >> > > > older versions.> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >>
> >>>> +1 Bruce.> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> I had thought that the
> >> export of the current site into the> > > >> gitbook>> > > >> > had> > >
> >>
> >>>>>> all> > > >> > >> > > the info, but perhaps> there are missing
> >> pieces.  I like the> > > idea> > > >> of> > > >> > >> >> keeping> > >
> >> >
> >>>>>> the old site running and link to it from the new> site.  This> > >
> >>>> ensures> > > >> > >> > > existing users have all the> info they need,
> >> but let's us move> > > >> > forward> > > >> > >> > with> >> > >> > >> >
> >
> >> new content.  Perhaps we can switch out the exiting home> page> > >
> for> >
> >>>>>> the new> > > >> > >> > > one and add a link to old> website AMQ
> >> project page ("Existing> > > >> users> > > >> > >> > looking> >> > >> >
> >>
> >>>> for the original ActiveMQ website click here.").  If we are>> > >
> able>
> >>>>>> to> > > >> > get> > > >> > >> > > some stats on number of> accesses
> >> to a particular page, we can> > > use> > > >> > that> > > >> > >>> >
> info>
> >>>>>>>>>>> to prioritise porting older content.> > > >> > >> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>>>> Search, feature also a good idea, but I'm not sure how> much> >
> >>>>> effort> > > >> > would> > > >> > >> > be> > > >> > >> > >> involved,
> >> there is already a search feature in the gitbook> > > >>> document> > >
> >>
> >>>>>> (linked> > > >> > >> > > to on the project page).>> > > >> > >> > >>
> >>>>>>>>>>> How about we fill in the existing> placeholder content and
> >> add> > > >> links> > > >> > to> > > >> > >> > the>> > > >> > >> > > old
> >> sites from each project page (and the home page)?  We>> > could> > > >>
> go>
> >>>>>>> live> > > >> > >> > > with this?  Then start> working through the
> >> nice to> > > >> > haves/criticals.  I> > > >> > >> > >> think once we're
> >> live and the code is available, the> > community> > > >>> will> > > >> >
> >> be> > > >> > >> > more> > > >> > >> > > inclined to> report/fixing
> issues.>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers> > > >> > >>> > >> > > >> > >> > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >>> > >> > > > On Fri,
> >> Oct 12, 2018 at 2:44 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > >>> [hidden email]> >
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > >> > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > >
> >> Cheers gents, looks like we're all set with the git>> > repos.> > > >>
> > >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shall we start putting> together a ToDo list
> >> for what> > needs> > > to> > > >> > happen> > > >> >> >> > to> > > >> >
> >>
> >>>>>> move to the new site?  JIRA perhaps?> > > >> >> >> > > > >> > > >>
> >>>>>>>>> Bruce you mentioned a search feature for> older content.> > >
> >> Can> > > >> you> > > >> > >> > > > elaborate> > > >> >> >> > > > > on
> >> this.  Also, there's the actual content for the pages,> > >> key> > >
> >> >
> >>>>> features,> > > >> > >> > > > > users etc... Perhaps we> can all
> >> contribute to these?  I> > > could> > > >> > take> > > >> > >> >> care>
> > >
> >>>>>>>>>> of> > > >> > >> > > > > the Artemis side of things,> if
> >> people with more> > experience> > > in> > > >> > NMS,> > > >> > >> >>
> CMS>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and> > > >> > >> > > > > 5.x could come up with some>
> >> content for the project home> > > >> pages?> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >
> >> >>
> >>>>>>>> I agree with Michael in that it'd be good to get the new> > >>
> >> site> > > >> > running> > > >> > >> > > > even> > > >> > >> > > > > if
> >> it's> not 100% perfect then iteratively improve on it.> > > >> > >> > >
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > On
> >> Thu,> Oct 11, 2018 at 12:56 AM Clebert Suconic <> > > >> > >> > > > >>
> >> [hidden email]>> > > >> > >> > > > > wrote:> > > >> > >> > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How to delete one now ?> > > >> > >> > > > > >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:55 PM Bruce Snyder <> > >
> >>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > >> > >> > > > > > wrote:> > > >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whoops, I just created one as
> >> well:> > >> >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >>>
> >> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-website.git> > > >> > >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 8:49 AM Clebert Suconic <> > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> >> wrote:>> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > New repo
> >> created:> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >>
> >> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-www.git> > > >> > >> > >
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:47 AM Clebert Suconic> > > >> > >> > >
> >>>>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robbie Gemmel pointed me to> > > >>>
> >> https://gitbox.apache.org/> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> >
> >>
> >>>>>>>> I'm trying to create one now:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > On>
> >> Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:36 AM Clebert Suconic> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> >
> >> <> [hidden email]> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's for Bruce Snyder then...> > > >> > >> > >
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:29 AM Justin Bertram> > <> > > >>
> >>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > wrote:> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's a
> >> "Create> a new Git repository"> > option> > > on> > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > >
> >>>>>> https://selfserve.apache.org/.  I clicked it> > > and> > > >> >
> >> logged> >> > >> > >> > > in,> > > >> > >> > > > > but> > > >> > >> > >
> > >
> >>>>>> apparently> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > it's restricted to ASF
> >> members> and PMC> > chairs.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> >
> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Justin> > > >> > >> > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at
> >> 9:24 AM> Clebert> > Suconic> > > <> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >>
> >> [hidden email]>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> >
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I create an>
> >> Infra JIRA for this:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> >
> > >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17124> > > >> > >> > > > >
> >>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:49 AM Clebert> > > Suconic> > > >> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:> > > >> > >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked infra>
> >> and no reponse.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > >
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know any procedure on> > creating> > > a> > >
> >>>>>> repo at> > > >> > >> > > > > apache?> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> I did ask infra about something what to> > > do..> > > >> > but so> >
> >>>>>>>>>> far> > > >> > >> > > > no> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > response.
> >> I> >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > know they are busy.. so if
> anyone
> >> here> >> > knows> > > >> a> > > >> > better> > > >> > >> > > way> > >
> >> >
> >>>>>>>>> to> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > handle> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>> this....> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8,
> >> 2018 at 9:14> AM Clebert> > > >> Suconic> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > >
> >>> <> [hidden email]> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just initiated a thread at
> >> apache>> > infra> > > >> > list,> > > >> > >> > > asking> > > >> > >> >
> > >
> >>> for> >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > guidance on> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> >
> >>>>>>>> how to setup things.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will keep it posted here.> > > >> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:01 AM> > > Christopher> >
> >>>>>>> Shannon> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <>
> >> [hidden email]>> > wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for getting
> >> the> website> > > discussion> > > >> > >> > > > restarted.  I> > > >> >
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>> think it> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > will be> > > >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite beneficial if we can get the> >
> >> new> > > >>> > website> > > >> > >> > live> > > >> > >> > > > and> > >
> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> have> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > more> > > >> > >> > > > > >
> >>>>>>>>> clear> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > information on
> >> there such as> what> > > Artemis> > > >> > is,> > > >> > >> > etc.> > >
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> On Sat, Oct 6,> 2018 at 9:13 AM> > Clebert> > > >> > Suconic <> > > >>
> > >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > >> > >> > > > > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will handle it next week.> > > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 5:09
> >> PM> > Bruce> > > >> >> Snyder <> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> [hidden email]>> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > >
> > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Clebert,> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be very helpful if
> >> you> > > could> > > >> > create> > >> >> > >> > a> > > >> > >> > > >
> git> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> repo> > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > for it> > > >> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and get> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > source code moved into
> >> there.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >
> > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On> Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 7:58
> >> AM> > > >> Clebert> > > >> > >> > Suconic> > > >>> > >> > > <> > > >> >
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]>> > > >> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Bruce: Anything I
> >> can do to> > > >> expedie> > >> >> > this?> > > >> > >> > or> > > >> >
> >> >
> >>>> you> > > >> > >> > > > > >> are> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > taking> > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care of> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>> the private repo?> >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 1:52 AM>> > > >> > >> > > > >
> michael.andre.pearce>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >> [hidden email]> > > >> .invalid>> > > >> > >> >> wrote:>
> > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> If you noted because its> > using> > > >> >> jekyll i> >
> >>>>>>>>>> could> > > >> > >> > > > > use> > > >> > >> > > >> > > > >
> >> github> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > pages.> > > >> > >> > > >> >
> > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> One option is you could host> > it> > > >>> on> > >
> >>>>> asf> > > >> > >> > git,> > > >> > >> > > > > have> > > >> > >>> > > >
> >>>>> the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > github> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >
> >>>> clone> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like> > > >> >> >> >
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we do with code and then use> > >> github> >
> >>>>>> pages,> > > >> > >> > > > simply> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > asking
> >> infra> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > to have> > > >> > >> > >> > >
> > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > sub
> >> domain point to the github> > > >> pages.> > > >> > Not> > > >> >> >> >
> >
> >> sure> > > >> > >> > > > if> > > >> > >> > > > > > > thats> > > >> >> >>
> > >
> >>>>>>>>>>> allowed or not,> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
> >>>> but> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if it is> probably
> >> easiest.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >>> > >>
> > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy> > > >> > smartphone.> > > >> >> >> > > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------- Original message> > > >> >>
> >> --------From:> > > >> > >> > > Bruce> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Snyder> >
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> >> [hidden email]> Date:> > > >> > 02/10/2018> > > >> > >> > > >>
> >> 21:11> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > (GMT+00:00)> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> >
> >>>>>> To:> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> >> [hidden email]> > Subject:> > > >> Re:> > > >> > >> > Website>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great job, MIchael! I
> >> like> >> the> > > >> look> > > >> > of> > > >> > >> > this> > > >> > >>
> > >
> >>>>> site.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's certainly work to be> > > done>
> >>>>>>>> as you> > > >> > >> > > > > > mentioned,> > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> >>> so I>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > don't think> > > >> > >> > >
> > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> can> > > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > take the place of
> the
> >> current> > >> >> site> > > >> > 100%> > > >> > >> > > just> > > >> > >>
> > >
> >>>>> yet. I>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > agree> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
> >>>>> that it>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does> > > >> > >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>> need> to be perfect, but we> > need> > > >> to> > > >> > >> >
> >> provide> > > >> >> >> > > an> > > >> > >> > > > > > easy> > > >> > >> >
> > >
> >>>>>> way to> >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > find the> > > >> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information we know exists> > via> > >
> >>>>> search> > > >> >> >> > > > > > functionality> > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> >>> or> > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > something.> > > >> > >> > > > >
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> The first action should> be to> > > >> move> > > >> > the> > > >> > >>
> > >
> >> source> > > >> > >> > > >> > > into> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > an ASF>
> > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git repo so> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>>> that> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> everyone has access to it,> > > >>> allowing> > > >> > >> > others> > >
> >>
> >>>>>>> to> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > contribute.> > > >> > >> > > > > >
> >>>>>>>> This will> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > allow>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us to deploy straight
> >> from> > the> > > >> git> > > >> > repo> > >> >> > >> > at> > > >> > >>
> > >
> >>> some> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > point,> too.> > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Has
> >> anyone recently> > > investigated> > > >> >> how to> > > >> > >> > > >
> >> deploy> > > >> > >> > > > > a> > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > static> > >
> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website from> > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >>>>> a> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > git> > > >> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repo to the> sub-domain at the> > > >>
> >> ASF?> > > >> > If> > > >> > >> > not,> > > >> >> >> > > I> > > >> > >>
> > >
> >>>> will> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > dig into> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >
> >>>>> it.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce> > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct
> >> 2, 2018 at 8:40> > AM> > > >> > >> > > > > >> michael.andre.pearce> > >
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <> [hidden email]>
> >>>>>>> .invalid>> > > >> > >> > > wrote:>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,> > > >> > >> > > > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> I just wanted to get the> > ball> > > >>> > rolling> > > >> > >> > >
> >> again> > > >> > >> > > > > on> > > >> > >> > > >> > > > this> > > >> >
> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>> discussion,> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> we've> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > made> > > >> > >>
> > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some great> progress made on> > > the> >
> >>>>>> initial> > > >> > >> > > > code> > > >>> > >> > > > > > base> > > >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> we> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > started a> > > >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>>> back,> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> we've created a responsive> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > >
> >>>> design based on bootstrap> > > >> which> > > >>> > looks> > > >> > >>
> >>>>> pretty> > > >> > >> > > > > > > nice> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > on
> >> both> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > mobile> > > >>> > >> > > > > >
> > >
> >>>>>>>>>> and> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> >> desktop, bringing us into> > > 2018> > > >> > ;).  All> > >> >> > >> > >
> >> the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > content was> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >
> > >
> >>>> exported> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from> > >> >> > >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> >>>>>>>>> current site by Bruce> > > already,> > > >> > and> now> > >
> >>>>>>>>>> lives> > > >> > >> > > > > > > under> > > >> > >> >> > > > >
> >>>> the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > documentation> >> > >>
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > >
> >>>>>>>>>>> on the ActiveMQ 5 project> > > page.> > > >> > >> >> > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> There's obviously still> > some> > > >> work> > > >> > to do> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>> but I> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > wanted to> > > >> > >> > >>
> >>>>>>>>>>> send now to> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> >> get> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some early
> feedback>
> >> and> > > >> hopefully> > > >> > get> > > >> > >> > > some> > > >> > >>
> > >>
> >>>>> input> > > >> > >> > > > > > > on> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> >> content for the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > home> > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pages for each project.> >
> >> What>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  do need to
> have
> >> happen> to> > > make> > > >> > this> > > >> > >> > > live.> > > >> > >>
> > >
> >>>>> I'd> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > prefer not> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> >
> >>>>>> to spend> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months> > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to get this perfect,>
> >>>>> but> > > >> > if we> > > >> > >> > > could> > > >> > >> > > > > get>
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > MVP for> > > >> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> website> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > live> > > >> >
> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and kicking, we can improve> > > it> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> iteratively> > > >> > >> > > > > over> > > >> > >> > > > > >
> >>>> time.> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd love to here your> > >
> >> thoughts,> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> >
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The code is here:> > > >> > >> > > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> https://github.com/michaelandrepearce/activemq-website/> > > >> > >> >
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And a demohttps://> > > >> > >> > > > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> michaelandrepearce.github.io/activemq-website> > > >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael> > > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent
> >> from my> Samsung Galaxy> > > >> > smartphone.> > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perl
> >> -e 'print> >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> >
> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*">
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> );'> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> ActiveMQ> in Action:> > > >> > http://bit.ly/2je6cQ> > > >> > >> > > >
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <> > > >> > >> > >
> >>>>> http://bruceblog.org/> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter:> > > >> >
> >> http://twitter.com/brucesnyder>> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> --> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Clebert Suconic> > >
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> perl -e 'print> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> >
> >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*">
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> );'> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ActiveMQ in Action:> > > >> >>
> >> http://bit.ly/2je6cQ> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> Blog:>
> >> http://bsnyder.org/ <> > > >> > >> > > http://bruceblog.org/> > > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter:> > > >>>
> >> http://twitter.com/brucesnyder> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Clebert Suconic> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic> > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clebert Suconic> > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> >>>> Clebert> Suconic> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Clebert
> >> Suconic> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >> > > > >
> >>>>>> Clebert> Suconic> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >>
> >>>>>>>>>> Clebert Suconic> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >>
> >>>>>>>> perl> -e 'print> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >
> >>>>>
> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"> >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> );'> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > >>
> >> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ> > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> Blog:>
> >> http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>> > > >> > >> > > > > > >>
> >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder> > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >> > > > > > Clebert Suconic> > > >> > >> > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >> > > > perl -e 'print> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >>
> >>>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*">
> >
> >>>>>>>>>> );'> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > ActiveMQ in Action:>
> >> http://bit.ly/2je6cQ> > > >> > >> > > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <>
> >> http://bruceblog.org/>> > > >> > >> > > > Twitter:>
> >> http://twitter.com/brucesnyder> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> > > >> > >> > perl -e 'print>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"> >
> >>
> >>>>> );'> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > ActiveMQ in Action:>
> >> http://bit.ly/2je6cQ> > > >> > >> > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <>
> >> http://bruceblog.org/>> > > >> > >> > Twitter:>
> >> http://twitter.com/brucesnyder> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >
> >> -->> > > >> > > Clebert Suconic> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >
> -->
> >>>>>>>> Clebert Suconic> > > >> >> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> --> > > >> perl
> >> -e> 'print> > > >>>
> >> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"> >>
> >> );'> > > >>> > > >> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ> > > >>>
> >> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>> > > >> Twitter:>
> >> http://twitter.com/brucesnyder> > > >>> > > >> > >> >-- Clebert Suconic
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michael.andre.pearce
Thats kind of why i really liked the original tag line Martyn had:

"A SUITE OF OPEN SOURCE PROJECTS FOR HIGH PERFORMANCE MESSAGING”

Its bang on what the ActiveMQ community is about, for me.


> On 4 Mar 2019, at 20:31, Justin Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
> I don't think "provider" is a good word at this point as it connotes some
> kind of service (e.g. a "cloud provider") and may be confusing.  I think
> "server" and "broker" would work fine as I don't think either of these
> exclude the inclusion of a client (e.g. "Java Application Server"
> implementations have always shipped various clients for remote EJB, JNDI,
> etc.). In my opinion, the term "platform" connotes a place where you run
> your application code, which ActiveMQ is not. There are certainly places
> for user code to run (e.g. interceptors, plugins), but that code is to
> serve the broader purpose of the server/broker as an integration point.
> Then again, maybe my opinion is in the minority. I'm willing to be
> convinced. Perhaps there are other good options we aren't considering.
>
> I don't want to artificially limit where the project can go in the future,
> but I also want to call it what it is and it hasn't really departed from
> its historical legacy.

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jbertram
But where is the "suite" of projects?  The only things under active
development/maintenance are the brokers.


Justin

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 2:46 PM Michael André Pearce
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thats kind of why i really liked the original tag line Martyn had:
>
> "A SUITE OF OPEN SOURCE PROJECTS FOR HIGH PERFORMANCE MESSAGING”
>
> Its bang on what the ActiveMQ community is about, for me.
>
>
> > On 4 Mar 2019, at 20:31, Justin Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I don't think "provider" is a good word at this point as it connotes some
> > kind of service (e.g. a "cloud provider") and may be confusing.  I think
> > "server" and "broker" would work fine as I don't think either of these
> > exclude the inclusion of a client (e.g. "Java Application Server"
> > implementations have always shipped various clients for remote EJB, JNDI,
> > etc.). In my opinion, the term "platform" connotes a place where you run
> > your application code, which ActiveMQ is not. There are certainly places
> > for user code to run (e.g. interceptors, plugins), but that code is to
> > serve the broader purpose of the server/broker as an integration point.
> > Then again, maybe my opinion is in the minority. I'm willing to be
> > convinced. Perhaps there are other good options we aren't considering.
> >
> > I don't want to artificially limit where the project can go in the
> future,
> > but I also want to call it what it is and it hasn't really departed from
> > its historical legacy.
>
>
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michael.andre.pearce
I am just against making it seem we are exclusively broker only. Present it maybe. But past it wasnt and future i hope it isnt.Happy for an alternative. But atm i much prefer keeping it as Martyn had it.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------From: Justin Bertram <[hidden email]> Date: 04/03/2019  20:53  (GMT+00:00) To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Website But where is the "suite" of projects?  The only things under activedevelopment/maintenance are the brokers.JustinOn Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 2:46 PM Michael André Pearce<[hidden email]> wrote:> Thats kind of why i really liked the original tag line Martyn had:>> "A SUITE OF OPEN SOURCE PROJECTS FOR HIGH PERFORMANCE MESSAGING”>> Its bang on what the ActiveMQ community is about, for me.>>> > On 4 Mar 2019, at 20:31, Justin Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:> >> >> > I don't think "provider" is a good word at this point as it connotes some> > kind of service (e.g. a "cloud provider") and may be confusing.  I think> > "server" and "broker" would work fine as I don't think either of these> > exclude the inclusion of a client (e.g. "Java Application Server"> > implementations have always shipped various clients for remote EJB, JNDI,> > etc.). In my opinion, the term "platform" connotes a place where you run> > your application code, which ActiveMQ is not. There are certainly places> > for user code to run (e.g. interceptors, plugins), but that code is to> > serve the broader purpose of the server/broker as an integration point.> > Then again, maybe my opinion is in the minority. I'm willing to be> > convinced. Perhaps there are other good options we aren't considering.> >> > I don't want to artificially limit where the project can go in the> future,> > but I also want to call it what it is and it hasn't really departed from> > its historical legacy.>>
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clebertsuconic
In reply to this post by jbertram
 I really like Martyn’s statement. TBH.


On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 5:07 PM michael.andre.pearce
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> I am just against making it seem we are exclusively broker only. Present
> it maybe. But past it wasnt and future i hope it isnt.Happy for an
> alternative. But atm i much prefer keeping it as Martyn had it.Sent from my
> Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> -------- Original message --------From: Justin Bertram <
> [hidden email]> Date: 04/03/2019  20:53  (GMT+00:00) To:
> [hidden email] Subject: Re: Website But where is the "suite" of
> projects?  The only things under activedevelopment/maintenance are the
> brokers.JustinOn Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 2:46 PM Michael André
> Pearce<[hidden email]> wrote:> Thats kind of why i
> really liked the original tag line Martyn had:>> "A SUITE OF OPEN SOURCE
> PROJECTS FOR HIGH PERFORMANCE MESSAGING”>> Its bang on what the ActiveMQ
> community is about, for me.>>> > On 4 Mar 2019, at 20:31, Justin Bertram <
> [hidden email]> wrote:> >> >> > I don't think "provider" is a good
> word at this point as it connotes some> > kind of service (e.g. a "cloud
> provider") and may be confusing.  I think> > "server" and "broker" would
> work fine as I don't think either of these> > exclude the inclusion of a
> client (e.g. "Java Application Server"> > implementations have always
> shipped various clients for remote EJB, JNDI,> > etc.). In my opinion, the
> term "platform" connotes a place where you run> > your application code,
> which ActiveMQ is not. There are certainly places> > for user code to run
> (e.g. interceptors, plugins), but that code is to> > serve the broader
> purpose of the server/broker as an integration point.> > Then again, maybe
> my opinion is in the minority. I'm willing to be> > convinced. Perhaps
> there are other good options we aren't considering.> >> > I don't want to
> artificially limit where the project can go in the> future,> > but I also
> want to call it what it is and it hasn't really departed from> > its
> historical legacy.>>

--
Clebert Suconic
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Robbie Gemmell
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Thanks Justin, the main things look covered now. Yeah, whimsy is fixed
to monitoring the live version, I was jsut mainly noting it for
comparison and perhaps later reference.

Some other small policy + style related comments:
- TM should be added on the logo images.
- The top and bottom left images could do with adjusting so that
'Apache' is legible.
- Similarly the footer text is rather tiny, even though the footer
dwarfs it with a lot of free space.
- Some of the images appear heavily down sized and could probably be
tweaked to improve their legibility and optimise for size a bit. E.g
the ASF logo used at the bottom is actually 3495×1417 resolution and
150KB.
- The bottom ASF logo text isnt that readable against the footer
background colour.

Robbie

On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 17:51, Justin Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> I just updated with some changes to comply with the branding policy. I
> think that's everything. If you see anything that's been left out please
> let me know.
>
> I don't see a way to make whimsy test the staged version.
>
>
> Justin
>
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 9:47 AM Robbie Gemmell <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > I haven't had a chance to look at the actual content, but from
> > skimming the index page it looks like there are still tweaks needed to
> > satisfy various site policies:
> > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs
> >
> > At least some of these are checked automatically:
> > https://whimsy.apache.org/site/
> >
> > Robbie
> >
> > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 14:54, Clebert Suconic <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > This looks ready! What we need to make it official?
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 12:53 PM Justin Bertram <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I added some content to the landing page and pushed it to the staging
> > > > website [1]. In general, I tried to highlight what was true for *both*
> > > > brokers but also distinguish them to make things clear for users.
> > I've got
> > > > other content changes ready to push, but I wanted to get this out
> > first for
> > > > review & discussion.
> > > >
> > > > In case anybody wonders, I removed the big "Used By" section that was
> > > > supposed to be full of company logos for two reasons:
> > > >   1) I'm not sure we have any concrete data on that.
> > > >   2) It's not clear to me whether or not we need permission to use
> > another
> > > > company's logo on our website and make claims about their use of
> > ActiveMQ.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Justin
> > > >
> > > > [1] http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 9:59 AM Andy Taylor <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'd be happy to help with adding content, I remember a hackathon was
> > > > > mentioned at one point.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any way since it's now in git it would be great if people could
> > contribute
> > > > > so we can have a better website sooner rather than later.
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 at 17:19, Martyn Taylor <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The site is uploaded and links added.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Note there's currently a sync issue with EU mirrors[1], it's
> > currently
> > > > > > being worked on.  To view the changes in the interim, use the US
> > > > > mirror[2].
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > Martyn
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. https://status.apache.org/
> > > > > > 2. http://activemq.us.apache.org/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 4:58 PM Martyn Taylor <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've went ahead and populated the repository, there's a GitHub
> > mirror
> > > > > > > here[1].  I've also generated the static content and should have
> > the
> > > > > work
> > > > > > > in progress hosted under a separately directory and a message on
> > the
> > > > > > > homepage shortly.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1. https://github.com/apache/activemq-website
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 8:54 PM Bruce Snyder <
> > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> +1
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Bruce
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 2:26 PM Clebert Suconic <
> > > > > > >> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > What about this. WE could :
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > - commit this on git
> > > > > > >> > - upload a snapshot for review under our web-site.
> > > > > > >> > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 8:46 AM Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > >> > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > +1000. We had that options discussed here a few times.
> > Having the
> > > > > > old
> > > > > > >> > website somewhere with a link is the way to go for the
> > migration.
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 7:47 AM michael.andre.pearce <
> > > > > > >> > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > >> > >> Sounds good to me.
> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > >> > >> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> > > > > > >> > >> -------- Original message --------From: Martyn Taylor <
> > > > > > >> > [hidden email]> Date: 22/10/2018  12:38  (GMT+00:00) To:
> > > > > > >> > [hidden email] Subject: Re: Website
> > > > > > >> > >> How about an equivalent message on the home page of the new
> > > > > > website,
> > > > > > >> > >> directing users to the old site?
> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:39 PM Bruce Snyder <
> > > > > > >> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > >> > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > >> > >> > Check out the Camel website and the message that they
> > posted
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > >> > their
> > > > > > >> > >> > website changes that are underway:
> > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > > >> > >> > https://camel.apache.org/
> > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > > >> > >> > Bruce
> > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > > >> > >> > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 3:30 AM Martyn Taylor <
> > > > > > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 8:38 PM Bruce Snyder <
> > > > > > >> > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > >> > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > Fair points, Martyn. I like the idea of a
> > combination of
> > > > > JIRA
> > > > > > >> > issues
> > > > > > >> > >> > > plus a
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > list of those issues that is easily visible
> > somewhere such
> > > > > as
> > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > >> > wiki.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > Seeing as how we are moving the website around
> > completely,
> > > > > I
> > > > > > >> > believe we
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > need to include the docs to support the older
> > versions in
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > >> > way. So,
> > > > > > >> > >> > > the
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > first thought that came to mind is a search
> > capability in
> > > > > > order
> > > > > > >> > for
> > > > > > >> > >> > users
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > to find them easier. Another idea, we could also
> > keep the
> > > > > old
> > > > > > >> site
> > > > > > >> > >> > intact
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > and available as a sub-domain or URL, e.g.,
> > > > > > >> > 5x.activemq.apache.org,
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > activemq.apache.org/5.x, etc. However, the
> > advantage of a
> > > > > > >> search
> > > > > > >> > >> > feature
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > is
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > that it would be useful across the site, not just
> > for older
> > > > > > >> > stuff. We
> > > > > > >> > >> > > might
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > even be able structure the search to allow users to
> > select
> > > > > a
> > > > > > >> > version of
> > > > > > >> > >> > > the
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > docs that they would like to search. Anyway, just
> > some
> > > > > > >> thoughts.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > I agree that we should try to get the new site
> > functional
> > > > > > ASAP,
> > > > > > >> > but
> > > > > > >> > >> > that
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > should not eliminate the old site entirely. We
> > should not
> > > > > > >> abandon
> > > > > > >> > users
> > > > > > >> > >> > > of
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > older versions.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > +1 Bruce.
> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > I had thought that the export of the current site into
> > the
> > > > > > >> gitbook
> > > > > > >> > had
> > > > > > >> > >> > all
> > > > > > >> > >> > > the info, but perhaps there are missing pieces.  I
> > like the
> > > > > > idea
> > > > > > >> of
> > > > > > >> > >> > keeping
> > > > > > >> > >> > > the old site running and link to it from the new
> > site.  This
> > > > > > >> ensures
> > > > > > >> > >> > > existing users have all the info they need, but let's
> > us move
> > > > > > >> > forward
> > > > > > >> > >> > with
> > > > > > >> > >> > > new content.  Perhaps we can switch out the exiting
> > home page
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > >> > the new
> > > > > > >> > >> > > one and add a link to old website AMQ project page
> > ("Existing
> > > > > > >> users
> > > > > > >> > >> > looking
> > > > > > >> > >> > > for the original ActiveMQ website click here.").  If
> > we are
> > > > > > able
> > > > > > >> to
> > > > > > >> > get
> > > > > > >> > >> > > some stats on number of accesses to a particular page,
> > we can
> > > > > > use
> > > > > > >> > that
> > > > > > >> > >> > info
> > > > > > >> > >> > > to prioritise porting older content.
> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > Search, feature also a good idea, but I'm not sure how
> > much
> > > > > > >> effort
> > > > > > >> > would
> > > > > > >> > >> > be
> > > > > > >> > >> > > involved, there is already a search feature in the
> > gitbook
> > > > > > >> document
> > > > > > >> > >> > (linked
> > > > > > >> > >> > > to on the project page).
> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > How about we fill in the existing placeholder content
> > and add
> > > > > > >> links
> > > > > > >> > to
> > > > > > >> > >> > the
> > > > > > >> > >> > > old sites from each project page (and the home page)?
> > We
> > > > > could
> > > > > > >> go
> > > > > > >> > live
> > > > > > >> > >> > > with this?  Then start working through the nice to
> > > > > > >> > haves/criticals.  I
> > > > > > >> > >> > > think once we're live and the code is available, the
> > > > > community
> > > > > > >> will
> > > > > > >> > be
> > > > > > >> > >> > more
> > > > > > >> > >> > > inclined to report/fixing issues.
> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > Cheers
> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > Bruce
> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 2:44 AM Martyn Taylor <
> > > > > > >> [hidden email]
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > Cheers gents, looks like we're all set with the git
> > > > > repos.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > Shall we start putting together a ToDo list for
> > what
> > > > > needs
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > >> > happen
> > > > > > >> > >> > to
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > move to the new site?  JIRA perhaps?
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > Bruce you mentioned a search feature for older
> > content.
> > > > > > Can
> > > > > > >> you
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > elaborate
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > on this.  Also, there's the actual content for the
> > pages,
> > > > > > key
> > > > > > >> > >> > features,
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > users etc... Perhaps we can all contribute to
> > these?  I
> > > > > > could
> > > > > > >> > take
> > > > > > >> > >> > care
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > of
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > the Artemis side of things, if people with more
> > > > > experience
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > >> > NMS,
> > > > > > >> > >> > CMS
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > and
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > 5.x could come up with some content for the
> > project home
> > > > > > >> pages?
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > I agree with Michael in that it'd be good to get
> > the new
> > > > > > site
> > > > > > >> > running
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > even
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > if it's not 100% perfect then iteratively improve
> > on it.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:56 AM Clebert Suconic <
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > How to delete one now ?
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:55 PM Bruce Snyder <
> > > > > > >> > >> > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > Whoops, I just created one as well:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-website.git
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > Bruce
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 8:49 AM Clebert Suconic
> > <
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > New repo created:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-www.git
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:47 AM Clebert
> > Suconic
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > Robbie Gemmel pointed me to
> > > > > > >> https://gitbox.apache.org/
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > I'm trying to create one now:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:36 AM Clebert
> > Suconic
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > That's for Bruce Snyder then...
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:29 AM Justin
> > Bertram
> > > > > <
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > There's a "Create a new Git repository"
> > > > > option
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > https://selfserve.apache.org/.  I
> > clicked it
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > >> > logged
> > > > > > >> > >> > > in,
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > but
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > apparently
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > it's restricted to ASF members and PMC
> > > > > chairs.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Justin
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:24 AM Clebert
> > > > > Suconic
> > > > > > <
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I create an Infra JIRA for this:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17124
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:49 AM
> > Clebert
> > > > > > Suconic
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I asked infra and no reponse.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know any procedure on
> > > > > creating
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > >> > repo at
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > apache?
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I did ask infra about something
> > what to
> > > > > > do..
> > > > > > >> > but so
> > > > > > >> > >> > far
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > no
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > response. I
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > know they are busy.. so if anyone
> > here
> > > > > > knows
> > > > > > >> a
> > > > > > >> > better
> > > > > > >> > >> > > way
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > to
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > handle
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > this....
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:14 AM
> > Clebert
> > > > > > >> Suconic
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just initiated a thread at
> > apache
> > > > > infra
> > > > > > >> > list,
> > > > > > >> > >> > > asking
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > for
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > guidance on
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > how to setup things.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > will keep it posted here.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:01 AM
> > > > > > Christopher
> > > > > > >> > Shannon
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[hidden email]
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for getting the website
> > > > > > discussion
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > restarted.  I
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > think it
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > will be
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quite beneficial if we can get
> > the
> > > > > new
> > > > > > >> > website
> > > > > > >> > >> > live
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > and
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > more
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > clear
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > information on there such as
> > what
> > > > > > Artemis
> > > > > > >> > is,
> > > > > > >> > >> > etc.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 9:13 AM
> > > > > Clebert
> > > > > > >> > Suconic <
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will handle it next week.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 5:09
> > PM
> > > > > Bruce
> > > > > > >> > Snyder <
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Clebert,
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be very helpful
> > if you
> > > > > > could
> > > > > > >> > create
> > > > > > >> > >> > a
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > git
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > repo
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > for it
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > and get
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > source code moved into
> > there.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bruce
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at
> > 7:58 AM
> > > > > > >> Clebert
> > > > > > >> > >> > Suconic
> > > > > > >> > >> > > <
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @Bruce: Anything I can
> > do to
> > > > > > >> expedie
> > > > > > >> > this?
> > > > > > >> > >> > or
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > you
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > are
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > taking
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > care of
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the private repo?
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at
> > 1:52 AM
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > michael.andre.pearce
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <
> > [hidden email]
> > > > > > >> .invalid>
> > > > > > >> > >> > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you noted because
> > its
> > > > > using
> > > > > > >> > jekyll i
> > > > > > >> > >> > > could
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > use
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > github
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > pages.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One option is you
> > could host
> > > > > it
> > > > > > >> on
> > > > > > >> > asf
> > > > > > >> > >> > git,
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > have
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > github
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > clone
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we do with code and then
> > use
> > > > > > github
> > > > > > >> > pages,
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > simply
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > asking infra
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > to have
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub domain point to the
> > github
> > > > > > >> pages.
> > > > > > >> > Not
> > > > > > >> > >> > > sure
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > if
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > thats
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > allowed or not,
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if it is probably
> > easiest.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Samsung
> > Galaxy
> > > > > > >> > smartphone.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------- Original
> > message
> > > > > > >> > --------From:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > Bruce
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > Snyder
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > <
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [hidden email]>
> > Date:
> > > > > > >> > 02/10/2018
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > 21:11
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > (GMT+00:00)
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [hidden email]
> > > > > Subject:
> > > > > > >> Re:
> > > > > > >> > >> > Website
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Great job, MIchael! I
> > like
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >> look
> > > > > > >> > of
> > > > > > >> > >> > this
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > site.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's certainly work
> > to be
> > > > > > done
> > > > > > >> > as you
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > mentioned,
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > so I
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > don't think
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > take the place of the
> > current
> > > > > > >> site
> > > > > > >> > 100%
> > > > > > >> > >> > > just
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > yet. I
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > agree
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > that it
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > need to be perfect,
> > but we
> > > > > need
> > > > > > >> to
> > > > > > >> > >> > provide
> > > > > > >> > >> > > an
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > easy
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > way to
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > find the
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > information we know
> > exists
> > > > > via
> > > > > > >> > search
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > functionality
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > something.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first action
> > should be to
> > > > > > >> move
> > > > > > >> > the
> > > > > > >> > >> > > source
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > into
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > an ASF
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > git repo so
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everyone has access to
> > it,
> > > > > > >> allowing
> > > > > > >> > >> > others
> > > > > > >> > >> > > to
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > contribute.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > This will
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > allow
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > us to deploy straight
> > from
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >> git
> > > > > > >> > repo
> > > > > > >> > >> > at
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > some
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > point, too.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone recently
> > > > > > investigated
> > > > > > >> > how to
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > deploy
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > a
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > static
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > website from
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > git
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > repo to the sub-domain
> > at the
> > > > > > >> ASF?
> > > > > > >> > If
> > > > > > >> > >> > not,
> > > > > > >> > >> > > I
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > will
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > dig into
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > it.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bruce
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at
> > 8:40
> > > > > AM
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > michael.andre.pearce
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <
> > [hidden email]
> > > > > > >> > .invalid>
> > > > > > >> > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just wanted to get
> > the
> > > > > ball
> > > > > > >> > rolling
> > > > > > >> > >> > > again
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > on
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > discussion,
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we've
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > made
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some great progress
> > made on
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > >> > initial
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > code
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > base
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > started a
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > while
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back,
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we've created a
> > responsive
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  design based on
> > bootstrap
> > > > > > >> which
> > > > > > >> > looks
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > pretty
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > nice
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > on both
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > mobile
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > desktop, bringing us
> > into
> > > > > > 2018
> > > > > > >> > ;).  All
> > > > > > >> > >> > > the
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > content was
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > exported
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > current site by Bruce
> > > > > > already,
> > > > > > >> > and now
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > lives
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > under
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > documentation
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > link
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the ActiveMQ 5
> > project
> > > > > > page.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's obviously
> > still
> > > > > some
> > > > > > >> work
> > > > > > >> > to do
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > but I
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > wanted to
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > send now to
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some early feedback
> > and
> > > > > > >> hopefully
> > > > > > >> > get
> > > > > > >> > >> > > some
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > input
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > content for the
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > home
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages for each
> > project.
> > > > > What
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  do need to have
> > happen to
> > > > > > make
> > > > > > >> > this
> > > > > > >> > >> > > live.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > I'd
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > prefer not
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > to spend
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trying to get this
> > perfect,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > >> > if we
> > > > > > >> > >> > > could
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > get
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > an
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > MVP for
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > website
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > live
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and kicking, we can
> > improve
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > >> > >> > > iteratively
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > over
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > time.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd love to here your
> > > > > > thoughts,
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The code is here:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> https://github.com/michaelandrepearce/activemq-website/
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And a demohttps://
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > michaelandrepearce.github.io/activemq-website
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael
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> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Samsung
> > Galaxy
> > > > > > >> > smartphone.
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> > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > );'
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ActiveMQ in Action:
> > > > > > >> > http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blog:
> > http://bsnyder.org/ <
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > http://bruceblog.org/
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Twitter:
> > > > > > >> > http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perl -e 'print
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> >
> > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > );'
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ActiveMQ in Action:
> > > > > > >> > http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/
> > <
> > > > > > >> > >> > > http://bruceblog.org/
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Twitter:
> > > > > > >> http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
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> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
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> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
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> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
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> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > Clebert Suconic
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> > > > > > >>
> > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > );'
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <
> > http://bruceblog.org/>
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > --
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
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> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> >
> > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> > > > > > >> > >> > );'
> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > > >> > >> > --
> > > > > > >> > >> > perl -e 'print
> > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > > >>
> > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> > > > > > >> > );'
> > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > > >> > >> > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> > > > > > >> > >> > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
> > > > > > >> > >> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
> > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > --
> > > > > > >> > > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > --
> > > > > > >> > Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > >> perl -e 'print
> > > > > > >>
> > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
> > > > > );'
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> > > > > > >> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
> > > > > > >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Clebert Suconic
> >

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clebertsuconic
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I was navigating through the staged website now.. it feels very
accurate and factual to me.. (sticking to the facts I think it's the
word I'm looking for here).


it's avoiding making any "mission statements" and it's just presenting
the projects..

IMO: We should go with the way it is now.. nice job!!!  We can always
improve it later.

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 8:37 AM Clebert Suconic
<[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>  I really like Martyn’s statement. TBH.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 5:07 PM michael.andre.pearce <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I am just against making it seem we are exclusively broker only. Present it maybe. But past it wasnt and future i hope it isnt.Happy for an alternative. But atm i much prefer keeping it as Martyn had it.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>> -------- Original message --------From: Justin Bertram <[hidden email]> Date: 04/03/2019  20:53  (GMT+00:00) To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Website But where is the "suite" of projects?  The only things under activedevelopment/maintenance are the brokers.JustinOn Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 2:46 PM Michael André Pearce<[hidden email]> wrote:> Thats kind of why i really liked the original tag line Martyn had:>> "A SUITE OF OPEN SOURCE PROJECTS FOR HIGH PERFORMANCE MESSAGING”>> Its bang on what the ActiveMQ community is about, for me.>>> > On 4 Mar 2019, at 20:31, Justin Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:> >> >> > I don't think "provider" is a good word at this point as it connotes some> > kind of service (e.g. a "cloud provider") and may be confusing.  I think> > "server" and "broker" would work fine as I don't think either of these> > exclude the inclusion of a client (e.g. "Java Application Server"> > implementations have always shipped various clients for remote EJB, JNDI,> > etc.). In my opinion, the term "platform" connotes a place where you run> > your application code, which ActiveMQ is not. There are certainly places> > for user code to run (e.g. interceptors, plugins), but that code is to> > serve the broader purpose of the server/broker as an integration point.> > Then again, maybe my opinion is in the minority. I'm willing to be> > convinced. Perhaps there are other good options we aren't considering.> >> > I don't want to artificially limit where the project can go in the> future,> > but I also want to call it what it is and it hasn't really departed from> > its historical legacy.>>
>
> --
> Clebert Suconic



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Re: Website

Robbie Gemmell
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The project is just ActiveMQ, so if going back to the earlier
statement I'd suggesting tweaking it, e.g something like
s/projects/components/:

"A SUITE OF OPEN SOURCE COMPONENTS FOR HIGH PERFORMANCE MESSAGING”

I dont really have a preference between the two statements, but I
would perhaps drop "broker" from the end of Justins, giving just:

"Flexible & Powerful Open Source Multi-Protocol Messaging"

Robbie

On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 13:43, Clebert Suconic <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>  I really like Martyn’s statement. TBH.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 5:07 PM michael.andre.pearce
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > I am just against making it seem we are exclusively broker only. Present
> > it maybe. But past it wasnt and future i hope it isnt.Happy for an
> > alternative. But atm i much prefer keeping it as Martyn had it.Sent from my
> > Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> > -------- Original message --------From: Justin Bertram <
> > [hidden email]> Date: 04/03/2019  20:53  (GMT+00:00) To:
> > [hidden email] Subject: Re: Website But where is the "suite" of
> > projects?  The only things under activedevelopment/maintenance are the
> > brokers.JustinOn Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 2:46 PM Michael André
> > Pearce<[hidden email]> wrote:> Thats kind of why i
> > really liked the original tag line Martyn had:>> "A SUITE OF OPEN SOURCE
> > PROJECTS FOR HIGH PERFORMANCE MESSAGING”>> Its bang on what the ActiveMQ
> > community is about, for me.>>> > On 4 Mar 2019, at 20:31, Justin Bertram <
> > [hidden email]> wrote:> >> >> > I don't think "provider" is a good
> > word at this point as it connotes some> > kind of service (e.g. a "cloud
> > provider") and may be confusing.  I think> > "server" and "broker" would
> > work fine as I don't think either of these> > exclude the inclusion of a
> > client (e.g. "Java Application Server"> > implementations have always
> > shipped various clients for remote EJB, JNDI,> > etc.). In my opinion, the
> > term "platform" connotes a place where you run> > your application code,
> > which ActiveMQ is not. There are certainly places> > for user code to run
> > (e.g. interceptors, plugins), but that code is to> > serve the broader
> > purpose of the server/broker as an integration point.> > Then again, maybe
> > my opinion is in the minority. I'm willing to be> > convinced. Perhaps
> > there are other good options we aren't considering.> >> > I don't want to
> > artificially limit where the project can go in the> future,> > but I also
> > want to call it what it is and it hasn't really departed from> > its
> > historical legacy.>>
>
> --
> Clebert Suconic
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michael.andre.pearce
+1 robbies suggestion i like it.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------From: Robbie Gemmell <[hidden email]> Date: 05/03/2019  15:59  (GMT+00:00) To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Website The project is just ActiveMQ, so if going back to the earlierstatement I'd suggesting tweaking it, e.g something likes/projects/components/:"A SUITE OF OPEN SOURCE COMPONENTS FOR HIGH PERFORMANCE MESSAGING”I dont really have a preference between the two statements, but Iwould perhaps drop "broker" from the end of Justins, giving just:"Flexible & Powerful Open Source Multi-Protocol Messaging"RobbieOn Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 13:43, Clebert Suconic <[hidden email]> wrote:>>  I really like Martyn’s statement. TBH.>>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 5:07 PM michael.andre.pearce> <[hidden email]> wrote:>> > I am just against making it seem we are exclusively broker only. Present> > it maybe. But past it wasnt and future i hope it isnt.Happy for an> > alternative. But atm i much prefer keeping it as Martyn had it.Sent from my> > Samsung Galaxy smartphone.> > -------- Original message --------From: Justin Bertram <> > [hidden email]> Date: 04/03/2019  20:53  (GMT+00:00) To:> > [hidden email] Subject: Re: Website But where is the "suite" of> > projects?  The only things under activedevelopment/maintenance are the> > brokers.JustinOn Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 2:46 PM Michael André> > Pearce<[hidden email]> wrote:> Thats kind of why i> > really liked the original tag line Martyn had:>> "A SUITE OF OPEN SOURCE> > PROJECTS FOR HIGH PERFORMANCE MESSAGING”>> Its bang on what the ActiveMQ> > community is about, for me.>>> > On 4 Mar 2019, at 20:31, Justin Bertram <> > [hidden email]> wrote:> >> >> > I don't think "provider" is a good> > word at this point as it connotes some> > kind of service (e.g. a "cloud> > provider") and may be confusing.  I think> > "server" and "broker" would> > work fine as I don't think either of these> > exclude the inclusion of a> > client (e.g. "Java Application Server"> > implementations have always> > shipped various clients for remote EJB, JNDI,> > etc.). In my opinion, the> > term "platform" connotes a place where you run> > your application code,> > which ActiveMQ is not. There are certainly places> > for user code to run> > (e.g. interceptors, plugins), but that code is to> > serve the broader> > purpose of the server/broker as an integration point.> > Then again, maybe> > my opinion is in the minority. I'm willing to be> > convinced. Perhaps> > there are other good options we aren't considering.> >> > I don't want to> > artificially limit where the project can go in the> future,> > but I also> > want to call it what it is and it hasn't really departed from> > its> > historical legacy.>>>> --> Clebert Suconic
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michael.andre.pearce
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As in +1 For "Flexible & Powerful Open Source Multi-Protocol Messaging"Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------From: "michael.andre.pearce" <[hidden email]> Date: 05/03/2019  16:17  (GMT+00:00) To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Website +1 robbies suggestion i like it.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
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jbertram
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Robbie, I agree with you on removing "broker" from the current tag line so
it's just, "Flexible & Powerful Open Source Multi-Protocol Messaging". I
had actually already made this change on my local version.  :)

I'll go ahead and make that change in the staging area given Mike's +1 as
well.


Justin

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 9:59 AM Robbie Gemmell <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> The project is just ActiveMQ, so if going back to the earlier
> statement I'd suggesting tweaking it, e.g something like
> s/projects/components/:
>
> "A SUITE OF OPEN SOURCE COMPONENTS FOR HIGH PERFORMANCE MESSAGING”
>
> I dont really have a preference between the two statements, but I
> would perhaps drop "broker" from the end of Justins, giving just:
>
> "Flexible & Powerful Open Source Multi-Protocol Messaging"
>
> Robbie
>
> On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 13:43, Clebert Suconic <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> >  I really like Martyn’s statement. TBH.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 5:07 PM michael.andre.pearce
> > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > > I am just against making it seem we are exclusively broker only.
> Present
> > > it maybe. But past it wasnt and future i hope it isnt.Happy for an
> > > alternative. But atm i much prefer keeping it as Martyn had it.Sent
> from my
> > > Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> > > -------- Original message --------From: Justin Bertram <
> > > [hidden email]> Date: 04/03/2019  20:53  (GMT+00:00) To:
> > > [hidden email] Subject: Re: Website But where is the "suite"
> of
> > > projects?  The only things under activedevelopment/maintenance are the
> > > brokers.JustinOn Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 2:46 PM Michael André
> > > Pearce<[hidden email]> wrote:> Thats kind of why
> i
> > > really liked the original tag line Martyn had:>> "A SUITE OF OPEN
> SOURCE
> > > PROJECTS FOR HIGH PERFORMANCE MESSAGING”>> Its bang on what the
> ActiveMQ
> > > community is about, for me.>>> > On 4 Mar 2019, at 20:31, Justin
> Bertram <
> > > [hidden email]> wrote:> >> >> > I don't think "provider" is a
> good
> > > word at this point as it connotes some> > kind of service (e.g. a
> "cloud
> > > provider") and may be confusing.  I think> > "server" and "broker"
> would
> > > work fine as I don't think either of these> > exclude the inclusion of
> a
> > > client (e.g. "Java Application Server"> > implementations have always
> > > shipped various clients for remote EJB, JNDI,> > etc.). In my opinion,
> the
> > > term "platform" connotes a place where you run> > your application
> code,
> > > which ActiveMQ is not. There are certainly places> > for user code to
> run
> > > (e.g. interceptors, plugins), but that code is to> > serve the broader
> > > purpose of the server/broker as an integration point.> > Then again,
> maybe
> > > my opinion is in the minority. I'm willing to be> > convinced. Perhaps
> > > there are other good options we aren't considering.> >> > I don't want
> to
> > > artificially limit where the project can go in the> future,> > but I
> also
> > > want to call it what it is and it hasn't really departed from> > its
> > > historical legacy.>>
> >
> > --
> > Clebert Suconic
>
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jbertram
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I assume some original vector images exist from which the various
individual images were created, but I don't have those so modifying the
images might be tricky. However, I did change the Apache image in the
footer to one that's easier to discern.

I increased the size of the footer text. The reason it was that small to
begin with is that is what the footer text is like on the existing ActiveMQ
website (although it's even less legible since it blends in with the
background so much).

Mike, do you have the original images for the new ActiveMQ logo (i.e. the
colored hexagons)?


Justin

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 9:50 AM Robbie Gemmell <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Thanks Justin, the main things look covered now. Yeah, whimsy is fixed
> to monitoring the live version, I was jsut mainly noting it for
> comparison and perhaps later reference.
>
> Some other small policy + style related comments:
> - TM should be added on the logo images.
> - The top and bottom left images could do with adjusting so that
> 'Apache' is legible.
> - Similarly the footer text is rather tiny, even though the footer
> dwarfs it with a lot of free space.
> - Some of the images appear heavily down sized and could probably be
> tweaked to improve their legibility and optimise for size a bit. E.g
> the ASF logo used at the bottom is actually 3495×1417 resolution and
> 150KB.
> - The bottom ASF logo text isnt that readable against the footer
> background colour.
>
> Robbie
>
> On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 17:51, Justin Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > I just updated with some changes to comply with the branding policy. I
> > think that's everything. If you see anything that's been left out please
> > let me know.
> >
> > I don't see a way to make whimsy test the staged version.
> >
> >
> > Justin
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 9:47 AM Robbie Gemmell <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I haven't had a chance to look at the actual content, but from
> > > skimming the index page it looks like there are still tweaks needed to
> > > satisfy various site policies:
> > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs
> > >
> > > At least some of these are checked automatically:
> > > https://whimsy.apache.org/site/
> > >
> > > Robbie
> > >
> > > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 14:54, Clebert Suconic <
> [hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This looks ready! What we need to make it official?
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 12:53 PM Justin Bertram <[hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I added some content to the landing page and pushed it to the
> staging
> > > > > website [1]. In general, I tried to highlight what was true for
> *both*
> > > > > brokers but also distinguish them to make things clear for users.
> > > I've got
> > > > > other content changes ready to push, but I wanted to get this out
> > > first for
> > > > > review & discussion.
> > > > >
> > > > > In case anybody wonders, I removed the big "Used By" section that
> was
> > > > > supposed to be full of company logos for two reasons:
> > > > >   1) I'm not sure we have any concrete data on that.
> > > > >   2) It's not clear to me whether or not we need permission to use
> > > another
> > > > > company's logo on our website and make claims about their use of
> > > ActiveMQ.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Justin
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 9:59 AM Andy Taylor <[hidden email]
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'd be happy to help with adding content, I remember a hackathon
> was
> > > > > > mentioned at one point.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any way since it's now in git it would be great if people could
> > > contribute
> > > > > > so we can have a better website sooner rather than later.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Andy
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 at 17:19, Martyn Taylor <[hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The site is uploaded and links added.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Note there's currently a sync issue with EU mirrors[1], it's
> > > currently
> > > > > > > being worked on.  To view the changes in the interim, use the
> US
> > > > > > mirror[2].
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > Martyn
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1. https://status.apache.org/
> > > > > > > 2. http://activemq.us.apache.org/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 4:58 PM Martyn Taylor <
> [hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've went ahead and populated the repository, there's a
> GitHub
> > > mirror
> > > > > > > > here[1].  I've also generated the static content and should
> have
> > > the
> > > > > > work
> > > > > > > > in progress hosted under a separately directory and a
> message on
> > > the
> > > > > > > > homepage shortly.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1. https://github.com/apache/activemq-website
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 8:54 PM Bruce Snyder <
> > > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> +1
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Bruce
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 2:26 PM Clebert Suconic <
> > > > > > > >> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> > What about this. WE could :
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > - commit this on git
> > > > > > > >> > - upload a snapshot for review under our web-site.
> > > > > > > >> > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 8:46 AM Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > >> > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > +1000. We had that options discussed here a few times.
> > > Having the
> > > > > > > old
> > > > > > > >> > website somewhere with a link is the way to go for the
> > > migration.
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 7:47 AM michael.andre.pearce <
> > > > > > > >> > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > > >> > >> Sounds good to me.
> > > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > > >> > >> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> > > > > > > >> > >> -------- Original message --------From: Martyn Taylor <
> > > > > > > >> > [hidden email]> Date: 22/10/2018  12:38  (GMT+00:00)
> To:
> > > > > > > >> > [hidden email] Subject: Re: Website
> > > > > > > >> > >> How about an equivalent message on the home page of
> the new
> > > > > > > website,
> > > > > > > >> > >> directing users to the old site?
> > > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:39 PM Bruce Snyder <
> > > > > > > >> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > >> > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > > >> > >> > Check out the Camel website and the message that they
> > > posted
> > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > >> > their
> > > > > > > >> > >> > website changes that are underway:
> > > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > https://camel.apache.org/
> > > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > Bruce
> > > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 3:30 AM Martyn Taylor <
> > > > > > > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 8:38 PM Bruce Snyder <
> > > > > > > >> > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > Fair points, Martyn. I like the idea of a
> > > combination of
> > > > > > JIRA
> > > > > > > >> > issues
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > plus a
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > list of those issues that is easily visible
> > > somewhere such
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > > >> > wiki.
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > Seeing as how we are moving the website around
> > > completely,
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > >> > believe we
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > need to include the docs to support the older
> > > versions in
> > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > >> > way. So,
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > the
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > first thought that came to mind is a search
> > > capability in
> > > > > > > order
> > > > > > > >> > for
> > > > > > > >> > >> > users
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > to find them easier. Another idea, we could also
> > > keep the
> > > > > > old
> > > > > > > >> site
> > > > > > > >> > >> > intact
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > and available as a sub-domain or URL, e.g.,
> > > > > > > >> > 5x.activemq.apache.org,
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > activemq.apache.org/5.x, etc. However, the
> > > advantage of a
> > > > > > > >> search
> > > > > > > >> > >> > feature
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > is
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > that it would be useful across the site, not just
> > > for older
> > > > > > > >> > stuff. We
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > might
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > even be able structure the search to allow users
> to
> > > select
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > >> > version of
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > the
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > docs that they would like to search. Anyway, just
> > > some
> > > > > > > >> thoughts.
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > I agree that we should try to get the new site
> > > functional
> > > > > > > ASAP,
> > > > > > > >> > but
> > > > > > > >> > >> > that
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > should not eliminate the old site entirely. We
> > > should not
> > > > > > > >> abandon
> > > > > > > >> > users
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > of
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > older versions.
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > +1 Bruce.
> > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > I had thought that the export of the current site
> into
> > > the
> > > > > > > >> gitbook
> > > > > > > >> > had
> > > > > > > >> > >> > all
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > the info, but perhaps there are missing pieces.  I
> > > like the
> > > > > > > idea
> > > > > > > >> of
> > > > > > > >> > >> > keeping
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > the old site running and link to it from the new
> > > site.  This
> > > > > > > >> ensures
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > existing users have all the info they need, but
> let's
> > > us move
> > > > > > > >> > forward
> > > > > > > >> > >> > with
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > new content.  Perhaps we can switch out the exiting
> > > home page
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > >> > the new
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > one and add a link to old website AMQ project page
> > > ("Existing
> > > > > > > >> users
> > > > > > > >> > >> > looking
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > for the original ActiveMQ website click here.").
> If
> > > we are
> > > > > > > able
> > > > > > > >> to
> > > > > > > >> > get
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > some stats on number of accesses to a particular
> page,
> > > we can
> > > > > > > use
> > > > > > > >> > that
> > > > > > > >> > >> > info
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > to prioritise porting older content.
> > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > Search, feature also a good idea, but I'm not sure
> how
> > > much
> > > > > > > >> effort
> > > > > > > >> > would
> > > > > > > >> > >> > be
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > involved, there is already a search feature in the
> > > gitbook
> > > > > > > >> document
> > > > > > > >> > >> > (linked
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > to on the project page).
> > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > How about we fill in the existing placeholder
> content
> > > and add
> > > > > > > >> links
> > > > > > > >> > to
> > > > > > > >> > >> > the
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > old sites from each project page (and the home
> page)?
> > > We
> > > > > > could
> > > > > > > >> go
> > > > > > > >> > live
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > with this?  Then start working through the nice to
> > > > > > > >> > haves/criticals.  I
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > think once we're live and the code is available,
> the
> > > > > > community
> > > > > > > >> will
> > > > > > > >> > be
> > > > > > > >> > >> > more
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > inclined to report/fixing issues.
> > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > Cheers
> > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > Bruce
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 2:44 AM Martyn Taylor <
> > > > > > > >> [hidden email]
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > Cheers gents, looks like we're all set with
> the git
> > > > > > repos.
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > Shall we start putting together a ToDo list for
> > > what
> > > > > > needs
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > >> > happen
> > > > > > > >> > >> > to
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > move to the new site?  JIRA perhaps?
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > Bruce you mentioned a search feature for older
> > > content.
> > > > > > > Can
> > > > > > > >> you
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > elaborate
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > on this.  Also, there's the actual content for
> the
> > > pages,
> > > > > > > key
> > > > > > > >> > >> > features,
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > users etc... Perhaps we can all contribute to
> > > these?  I
> > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > >> > take
> > > > > > > >> > >> > care
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > of
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > the Artemis side of things, if people with more
> > > > > > experience
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > >> > NMS,
> > > > > > > >> > >> > CMS
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > and
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > 5.x could come up with some content for the
> > > project home
> > > > > > > >> pages?
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > I agree with Michael in that it'd be good to
> get
> > > the new
> > > > > > > site
> > > > > > > >> > running
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > even
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > if it's not 100% perfect then iteratively
> improve
> > > on it.
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:56 AM Clebert
> Suconic <
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > How to delete one now ?
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:55 PM Bruce Snyder <
> > > > > > > >> > >> > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > Whoops, I just created one as well:
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-website.git
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > Bruce
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 8:49 AM Clebert
> Suconic
> > > <
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > New repo created:
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-www.git
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:47 AM Clebert
> > > Suconic
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > Robbie Gemmel pointed me to
> > > > > > > >> https://gitbox.apache.org/
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > I'm trying to create one now:
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:36 AM Clebert
> > > Suconic
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > That's for Bruce Snyder then...
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:29 AM
> Justin
> > > Bertram
> > > > > > <
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > There's a "Create a new Git
> repository"
> > > > > > option
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > https://selfserve.apache.org/.  I
> > > clicked it
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >> > logged
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > in,
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > but
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > apparently
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > it's restricted to ASF members and
> PMC
> > > > > > chairs.
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Justin
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:24 AM
> Clebert
> > > > > > Suconic
> > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I create an Infra JIRA for this:
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17124
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:49 AM
> > > Clebert
> > > > > > > Suconic
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I asked infra and no reponse.
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know any procedure
> on
> > > > > > creating
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > >> > repo at
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > apache?
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I did ask infra about something
> > > what to
> > > > > > > do..
> > > > > > > >> > but so
> > > > > > > >> > >> > far
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > no
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > response. I
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > know they are busy.. so if
> anyone
> > > here
> > > > > > > knows
> > > > > > > >> a
> > > > > > > >> > better
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > way
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > to
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > handle
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > this....
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:14 AM
> > > Clebert
> > > > > > > >> Suconic
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just initiated a thread at
> > > apache
> > > > > > infra
> > > > > > > >> > list,
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > asking
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > for
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > guidance on
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > how to setup things.
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > will keep it posted here.
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:01
> AM
> > > > > > > Christopher
> > > > > > > >> > Shannon
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <
> [hidden email]
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for getting the
> website
> > > > > > > discussion
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > restarted.  I
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > think it
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > will be
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quite beneficial if we can
> get
> > > the
> > > > > > new
> > > > > > > >> > website
> > > > > > > >> > >> > live
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > and
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > more
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > clear
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > information on there such
> as
> > > what
> > > > > > > Artemis
> > > > > > > >> > is,
> > > > > > > >> > >> > etc.
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at
> 9:13 AM
> > > > > > Clebert
> > > > > > > >> > Suconic <
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will handle it next
> week.
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at
> 5:09
> > > PM
> > > > > > Bruce
> > > > > > > >> > Snyder <
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Clebert,
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be very
> helpful
> > > if you
> > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > >> > create
> > > > > > > >> > >> > a
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > git
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > repo
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > for it
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > and get
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > source code moved into
> > > there.
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bruce
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at
> > > 7:58 AM
> > > > > > > >> Clebert
> > > > > > > >> > >> > Suconic
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > <
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @Bruce: Anything I
> can
> > > do to
> > > > > > > >> expedie
> > > > > > > >> > this?
> > > > > > > >> > >> > or
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > you
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > taking
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> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the private repo?
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018
> at
> > > 1:52 AM
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > michael.andre.pearce
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <
> > > [hidden email]
> > > > > > > >> .invalid>
> > > > > > > >> > >> > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you noted
> because
> > > its
> > > > > > using
> > > > > > > >> > jekyll i
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > could
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > use
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > github
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > pages.
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One option is you
> > > could host
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > >> on
> > > > > > > >> > asf
> > > > > > > >> > >> > git,
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > have
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > the
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> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we do with code and
> then
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> > > > > > > github
> > > > > > > >> > pages,
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > simply
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > asking infra
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > to have
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub domain point to
> the
> > > github
> > > > > > > >> pages.
> > > > > > > >> > Not
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > sure
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > if
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > thats
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > allowed or not,
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if it is probably
> > > easiest.
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my
> Samsung
> > > Galaxy
> > > > > > > >> > smartphone.
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------- Original
> > > message
> > > > > > > >> > --------From:
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > Bruce
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > Snyder
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> [hidden email]>
> > > Date:
> > > > > > > >> > 02/10/2018
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > 21:11
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > (GMT+00:00)
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> [hidden email]
> > > > > > Subject:
> > > > > > > >> Re:
> > > > > > > >> > >> > Website
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Great job,
> MIchael! I
> > > like
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >> look
> > > > > > > >> > of
> > > > > > > >> > >> > this
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > site.
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's certainly
> work
> > > to be
> > > > > > > done
> > > > > > > >> > as you
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > mentioned,
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > so I
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > don't think
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > take the place of
> the
> > > current
> > > > > > > >> site
> > > > > > > >> > 100%
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > just
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > yet. I
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > agree
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > that it
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > need to be perfect,
> > > but we
> > > > > > need
> > > > > > > >> to
> > > > > > > >> > >> > provide
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > an
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > easy
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > way to
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > find the
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > information we know
> > > exists
> > > > > > via
> > > > > > > >> > search
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > functionality
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > something.
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first action
> > > should be to
> > > > > > > >> move
> > > > > > > >> > the
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > source
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > into
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > an ASF
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > git repo so
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everyone has
> access to
> > > it,
> > > > > > > >> allowing
> > > > > > > >> > >> > others
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > to
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > contribute.
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > This will
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > allow
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > us to deploy
> straight
> > > from
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >> git
> > > > > > > >> > repo
> > > > > > > >> > >> > at
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > some
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > point, too.
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone recently
> > > > > > > investigated
> > > > > > > >> > how to
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > deploy
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > a
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > static
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > website from
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > git
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > repo to the
> sub-domain
> > > at the
> > > > > > > >> ASF?
> > > > > > > >> > If
> > > > > > > >> > >> > not,
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > I
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > will
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > dig into
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bruce
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 2,
> 2018 at
> > > 8:40
> > > > > > AM
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > michael.andre.pearce
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <
> > > [hidden email]
> > > > > > > >> > .invalid>
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just wanted to
> get
> > > the
> > > > > > ball
> > > > > > > >> > rolling
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > again
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > on
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > discussion,
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we've
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > made
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some great
> progress
> > > made on
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >> > initial
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > code
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > base
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > started a
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > while
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back,
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we've created a
> > > responsive
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  design based on
> > > bootstrap
> > > > > > > >> which
> > > > > > > >> > looks
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > pretty
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > nice
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > on both
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > mobile
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > desktop,
> bringing us
> > > into
> > > > > > > 2018
> > > > > > > >> > ;).  All
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > the
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > content was
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > exported
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > current site by
> Bruce
> > > > > > > already,
> > > > > > > >> > and now
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > lives
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > under
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > documentation
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > link
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the ActiveMQ 5
> > > project
> > > > > > > page.
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's obviously
> > > still
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > > >> work
> > > > > > > >> > to do
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > but I
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > wanted to
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > send now to
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some early
> feedback
> > > and
> > > > > > > >> hopefully
> > > > > > > >> > get
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > some
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > input
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > content for the
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > home
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages for each
> > > project.
> > > > > > What
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  do need to have
> > > happen to
> > > > > > > make
> > > > > > > >> > this
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > live.
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > I'd
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > prefer not
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > to spend
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trying to get
> this
> > > perfect,
> > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > >> > if we
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > could
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > get
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > MVP for
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > website
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > live
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and kicking, we
> can
> > > improve
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > iteratively
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > over
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > time.
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd love to here
> your
> > > > > > > thoughts,
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The code is here:
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> https://github.com/michaelandrepearce/activemq-website/
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And a
> demohttps://
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > michaelandrepearce.github.io/activemq-website
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my
> Samsung
> > > Galaxy
> > > > > > > >> > smartphone.
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ActiveMQ in Action:
> > > > > > > >> > http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blog:
> > > http://bsnyder.org/ <
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > http://bruceblog.org/
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Twitter:
> > > > > > > >> > http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
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> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ActiveMQ in Action:
> > > > > > > >> > http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blog:
> http://bsnyder.org/
> > > <
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > http://bruceblog.org/
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Twitter:
> > > > > > > >> http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
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> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <
> > > http://bruceblog.org/>
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > >> > >> > );'
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/
> >
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> > > > > > > >> > );'
> > > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> > > > > > > >> > >> > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
> > > > > > > >> > >> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
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> > > > > > );'
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> > > > > > > >> Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
> > > > > > > >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
> > > > > > > >>
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Re: Website

Robbie Gemmell
This seems to be where the original files went:
https://github.com/apache/activemq/blob/master/docs/img/

I notice now I can read it that the footer should also mention
[ActiveMQ] Artemis in the text when listing off terms.

Robbie

On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 17:58, Justin Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> I assume some original vector images exist from which the various
> individual images were created, but I don't have those so modifying the
> images might be tricky. However, I did change the Apache image in the
> footer to one that's easier to discern.
>
> I increased the size of the footer text. The reason it was that small to
> begin with is that is what the footer text is like on the existing ActiveMQ
> website (although it's even less legible since it blends in with the
> background so much).
>
> Mike, do you have the original images for the new ActiveMQ logo (i.e. the
> colored hexagons)?
>
>
> Justin
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 9:50 AM Robbie Gemmell <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Justin, the main things look covered now. Yeah, whimsy is fixed
> > to monitoring the live version, I was jsut mainly noting it for
> > comparison and perhaps later reference.
> >
> > Some other small policy + style related comments:
> > - TM should be added on the logo images.
> > - The top and bottom left images could do with adjusting so that
> > 'Apache' is legible.
> > - Similarly the footer text is rather tiny, even though the footer
> > dwarfs it with a lot of free space.
> > - Some of the images appear heavily down sized and could probably be
> > tweaked to improve their legibility and optimise for size a bit. E.g
> > the ASF logo used at the bottom is actually 3495×1417 resolution and
> > 150KB.
> > - The bottom ASF logo text isnt that readable against the footer
> > background colour.
> >
> > Robbie
> >
> > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 17:51, Justin Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > > I just updated with some changes to comply with the branding policy. I
> > > think that's everything. If you see anything that's been left out please
> > > let me know.
> > >
> > > I don't see a way to make whimsy test the staged version.
> > >
> > >
> > > Justin
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 9:47 AM Robbie Gemmell <[hidden email]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I haven't had a chance to look at the actual content, but from
> > > > skimming the index page it looks like there are still tweaks needed to
> > > > satisfy various site policies:
> > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs
> > > >
> > > > At least some of these are checked automatically:
> > > > https://whimsy.apache.org/site/
> > > >
> > > > Robbie
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 14:54, Clebert Suconic <
> > [hidden email]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > This looks ready! What we need to make it official?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 12:53 PM Justin Bertram <[hidden email]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I added some content to the landing page and pushed it to the
> > staging
> > > > > > website [1]. In general, I tried to highlight what was true for
> > *both*
> > > > > > brokers but also distinguish them to make things clear for users.
> > > > I've got
> > > > > > other content changes ready to push, but I wanted to get this out
> > > > first for
> > > > > > review & discussion.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In case anybody wonders, I removed the big "Used By" section that
> > was
> > > > > > supposed to be full of company logos for two reasons:
> > > > > >   1) I'm not sure we have any concrete data on that.
> > > > > >   2) It's not clear to me whether or not we need permission to use
> > > > another
> > > > > > company's logo on our website and make claims about their use of
> > > > ActiveMQ.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Justin
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1] http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 9:59 AM Andy Taylor <[hidden email]
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'd be happy to help with adding content, I remember a hackathon
> > was
> > > > > > > mentioned at one point.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any way since it's now in git it would be great if people could
> > > > contribute
> > > > > > > so we can have a better website sooner rather than later.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Andy
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 at 17:19, Martyn Taylor <[hidden email]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The site is uploaded and links added.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Note there's currently a sync issue with EU mirrors[1], it's
> > > > currently
> > > > > > > > being worked on.  To view the changes in the interim, use the
> > US
> > > > > > > mirror[2].
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > > Martyn
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1. https://status.apache.org/
> > > > > > > > 2. http://activemq.us.apache.org/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 4:58 PM Martyn Taylor <
> > [hidden email]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I've went ahead and populated the repository, there's a
> > GitHub
> > > > mirror
> > > > > > > > > here[1].  I've also generated the static content and should
> > have
> > > > the
> > > > > > > work
> > > > > > > > > in progress hosted under a separately directory and a
> > message on
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > homepage shortly.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1. https://github.com/apache/activemq-website
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 8:54 PM Bruce Snyder <
> > > > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> +1
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Bruce
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 2:26 PM Clebert Suconic <
> > > > > > > > >> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> > What about this. WE could :
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > - commit this on git
> > > > > > > > >> > - upload a snapshot for review under our web-site.
> > > > > > > > >> > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 8:46 AM Clebert Suconic
> > > > > > > > >> > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > +1000. We had that options discussed here a few times.
> > > > Having the
> > > > > > > > old
> > > > > > > > >> > website somewhere with a link is the way to go for the
> > > > migration.
> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 7:47 AM michael.andre.pearce <
> > > > > > > > >> > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > > > >> > >> Sounds good to me.
> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > > > >> > >> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> > > > > > > > >> > >> -------- Original message --------From: Martyn Taylor <
> > > > > > > > >> > [hidden email]> Date: 22/10/2018  12:38  (GMT+00:00)
> > To:
> > > > > > > > >> > [hidden email] Subject: Re: Website
> > > > > > > > >> > >> How about an equivalent message on the home page of
> > the new
> > > > > > > > website,
> > > > > > > > >> > >> directing users to the old site?
> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > > > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:39 PM Bruce Snyder <
> > > > > > > > >> [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > > >> > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > Check out the Camel website and the message that they
> > > > posted
> > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > >> > their
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > website changes that are underway:
> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > https://camel.apache.org/
> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > Bruce
> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 3:30 AM Martyn Taylor <
> > > > > > > > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 8:38 PM Bruce Snyder <
> > > > > > > > >> > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > Fair points, Martyn. I like the idea of a
> > > > combination of
> > > > > > > JIRA
> > > > > > > > >> > issues
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > plus a
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > list of those issues that is easily visible
> > > > somewhere such
> > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > > > >> > wiki.
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > Seeing as how we are moving the website around
> > > > completely,
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > >> > believe we
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > need to include the docs to support the older
> > > > versions in
> > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > >> > way. So,
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > first thought that came to mind is a search
> > > > capability in
> > > > > > > > order
> > > > > > > > >> > for
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > users
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > to find them easier. Another idea, we could also
> > > > keep the
> > > > > > > old
> > > > > > > > >> site
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > intact
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > and available as a sub-domain or URL, e.g.,
> > > > > > > > >> > 5x.activemq.apache.org,
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > activemq.apache.org/5.x, etc. However, the
> > > > advantage of a
> > > > > > > > >> search
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > feature
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > is
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > that it would be useful across the site, not just
> > > > for older
> > > > > > > > >> > stuff. We
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > might
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > even be able structure the search to allow users
> > to
> > > > select
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > >> > version of
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > docs that they would like to search. Anyway, just
> > > > some
> > > > > > > > >> thoughts.
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > I agree that we should try to get the new site
> > > > functional
> > > > > > > > ASAP,
> > > > > > > > >> > but
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > that
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > should not eliminate the old site entirely. We
> > > > should not
> > > > > > > > >> abandon
> > > > > > > > >> > users
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > of
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > older versions.
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > +1 Bruce.
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > I had thought that the export of the current site
> > into
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > >> gitbook
> > > > > > > > >> > had
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > all
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the info, but perhaps there are missing pieces.  I
> > > > like the
> > > > > > > > idea
> > > > > > > > >> of
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > keeping
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the old site running and link to it from the new
> > > > site.  This
> > > > > > > > >> ensures
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > existing users have all the info they need, but
> > let's
> > > > us move
> > > > > > > > >> > forward
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > with
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > new content.  Perhaps we can switch out the exiting
> > > > home page
> > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > >> > the new
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > one and add a link to old website AMQ project page
> > > > ("Existing
> > > > > > > > >> users
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > looking
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > for the original ActiveMQ website click here.").
> > If
> > > > we are
> > > > > > > > able
> > > > > > > > >> to
> > > > > > > > >> > get
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > some stats on number of accesses to a particular
> > page,
> > > > we can
> > > > > > > > use
> > > > > > > > >> > that
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > info
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > to prioritise porting older content.
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > Search, feature also a good idea, but I'm not sure
> > how
> > > > much
> > > > > > > > >> effort
> > > > > > > > >> > would
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > be
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > involved, there is already a search feature in the
> > > > gitbook
> > > > > > > > >> document
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > (linked
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > to on the project page).
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > How about we fill in the existing placeholder
> > content
> > > > and add
> > > > > > > > >> links
> > > > > > > > >> > to
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > the
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > old sites from each project page (and the home
> > page)?
> > > > We
> > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > >> go
> > > > > > > > >> > live
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > with this?  Then start working through the nice to
> > > > > > > > >> > haves/criticals.  I
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > think once we're live and the code is available,
> > the
> > > > > > > community
> > > > > > > > >> will
> > > > > > > > >> > be
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > more
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > inclined to report/fixing issues.
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > Cheers
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > Bruce
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 2:44 AM Martyn Taylor <
> > > > > > > > >> [hidden email]
> > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > Cheers gents, looks like we're all set with
> > the git
> > > > > > > repos.
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > Shall we start putting together a ToDo list for
> > > > what
> > > > > > > needs
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > >> > happen
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > to
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > move to the new site?  JIRA perhaps?
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > Bruce you mentioned a search feature for older
> > > > content.
> > > > > > > > Can
> > > > > > > > >> you
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > elaborate
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > on this.  Also, there's the actual content for
> > the
> > > > pages,
> > > > > > > > key
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > features,
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > users etc... Perhaps we can all contribute to
> > > > these?  I
> > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > >> > take
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > care
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > of
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > the Artemis side of things, if people with more
> > > > > > > experience
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > >> > NMS,
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > CMS
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > and
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > 5.x could come up with some content for the
> > > > project home
> > > > > > > > >> pages?
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > I agree with Michael in that it'd be good to
> > get
> > > > the new
> > > > > > > > site
> > > > > > > > >> > running
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > even
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > if it's not 100% perfect then iteratively
> > improve
> > > > on it.
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:56 AM Clebert
> > Suconic <
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > How to delete one now ?
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:55 PM Bruce Snyder <
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > Whoops, I just created one as well:
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-website.git
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > Bruce
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 8:49 AM Clebert
> > Suconic
> > > > <
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > New repo created:
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-www.git
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:47 AM Clebert
> > > > Suconic
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > Robbie Gemmel pointed me to
> > > > > > > > >> https://gitbox.apache.org/
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > I'm trying to create one now:
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:36 AM Clebert
> > > > Suconic
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > That's for Bruce Snyder then...
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:29 AM
> > Justin
> > > > Bertram
> > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > There's a "Create a new Git
> > repository"
> > > > > > > option
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > https://selfserve.apache.org/.  I
> > > > clicked it
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >> > logged
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > in,
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > but
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > apparently
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > it's restricted to ASF members and
> > PMC
> > > > > > > chairs.
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Justin
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:24 AM
> > Clebert
> > > > > > > Suconic
> > > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I create an Infra JIRA for this:
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17124
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:49 AM
> > > > Clebert
> > > > > > > > Suconic
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I asked infra and no reponse.
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know any procedure
> > on
> > > > > > > creating
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > >> > repo at
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > apache?
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I did ask infra about something
> > > > what to
> > > > > > > > do..
> > > > > > > > >> > but so
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > far
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > no
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > response. I
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > know they are busy.. so if
> > anyone
> > > > here
> > > > > > > > knows
> > > > > > > > >> a
> > > > > > > > >> > better
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > way
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > handle
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > this....
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:14 AM
> > > > Clebert
> > > > > > > > >> Suconic
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just initiated a thread at
> > > > apache
> > > > > > > infra
> > > > > > > > >> > list,
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > asking
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > for
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > guidance on
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > how to setup things.
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > will keep it posted here.
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:01
> > AM
> > > > > > > > Christopher
> > > > > > > > >> > Shannon
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <
> > [hidden email]
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for getting the
> > website
> > > > > > > > discussion
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > restarted.  I
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > think it
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > will be
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quite beneficial if we can
> > get
> > > > the
> > > > > > > new
> > > > > > > > >> > website
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > live
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > and
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > clear
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > information on there such
> > as
> > > > what
> > > > > > > > Artemis
> > > > > > > > >> > is,
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > etc.
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at
> > 9:13 AM
> > > > > > > Clebert
> > > > > > > > >> > Suconic <
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will handle it next
> > week.
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at
> > 5:09
> > > > PM
> > > > > > > Bruce
> > > > > > > > >> > Snyder <
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Clebert,
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be very
> > helpful
> > > > if you
> > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > >> > create
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > a
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > git
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > repo
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > for it
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > and get
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > source code moved into
> > > > there.
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bruce
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at
> > > > 7:58 AM
> > > > > > > > >> Clebert
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > Suconic
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > <
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > [hidden email]>
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @Bruce: Anything I
> > can
> > > > do to
> > > > > > > > >> expedie
> > > > > > > > >> > this?
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > or
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > you
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > taking
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > care of
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the private repo?
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018
> > at
> > > > 1:52 AM
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > michael.andre.pearce
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <
> > > > [hidden email]
> > > > > > > > >> .invalid>
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you noted
> > because
> > > > its
> > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > > >> > jekyll i
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > could
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > use
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > github
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > pages.
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One option is you
> > > > could host
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > >> on
> > > > > > > > >> > asf
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > git,
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > have
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > github
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > clone
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we do with code and
> > then
> > > > use
> > > > > > > > github
> > > > > > > > >> > pages,
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > simply
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > asking infra
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > to have
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub domain point to
> > the
> > > > github
> > > > > > > > >> pages.
> > > > > > > > >> > Not
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > sure
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > if
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > thats
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > allowed or not,
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if it is probably
> > > > easiest.
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my
> > Samsung
> > > > Galaxy
> > > > > > > > >> > smartphone.
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------- Original
> > > > message
> > > > > > > > >> > --------From:
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > Bruce
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > Snyder
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > [hidden email]>
> > > > Date:
> > > > > > > > >> > 02/10/2018
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > 21:11
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > (GMT+00:00)
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > [hidden email]
> > > > > > > Subject:
> > > > > > > > >> Re:
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > Website
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Great job,
> > MIchael! I
> > > > like
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >> look
> > > > > > > > >> > of
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > this
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > site.
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's certainly
> > work
> > > > to be
> > > > > > > > done
> > > > > > > > >> > as you
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > mentioned,
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > so I
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > don't think
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > take the place of
> > the
> > > > current
> > > > > > > > >> site
> > > > > > > > >> > 100%
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > just
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > yet. I
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > agree
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > that it
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > need to be perfect,
> > > > but we
> > > > > > > need
> > > > > > > > >> to
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > provide
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > an
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > easy
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > way to
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > find the
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > information we know
> > > > exists
> > > > > > > via
> > > > > > > > >> > search
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > functionality
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > something.
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first action
> > > > should be to
> > > > > > > > >> move
> > > > > > > > >> > the
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > source
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > into
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > an ASF
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > git repo so
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everyone has
> > access to
> > > > it,
> > > > > > > > >> allowing
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > others
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > to
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > contribute.
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > This will
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > allow
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > us to deploy
> > straight
> > > > from
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >> git
> > > > > > > > >> > repo
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > at
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > some
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > point, too.
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone recently
> > > > > > > > investigated
> > > > > > > > >> > how to
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > deploy
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > static
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > website from
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > git
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > repo to the
> > sub-domain
> > > > at the
> > > > > > > > >> ASF?
> > > > > > > > >> > If
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > not,
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > I
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > will
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > dig into
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bruce
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 2,
> > 2018 at
> > > > 8:40
> > > > > > > AM
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > michael.andre.pearce
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <
> > > > [hidden email]
> > > > > > > > >> > .invalid>
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just wanted to
> > get
> > > > the
> > > > > > > ball
> > > > > > > > >> > rolling
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > again
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > on
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > discussion,
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we've
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > made
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some great
> > progress
> > > > made on
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >> > initial
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > code
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > base
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > started a
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > while
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > back,
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we've created a
> > > > responsive
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  design based on
> > > > bootstrap
> > > > > > > > >> which
> > > > > > > > >> > looks
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > pretty
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > nice
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > on both
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > mobile
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > desktop,
> > bringing us
> > > > into
> > > > > > > > 2018
> > > > > > > > >> > ;).  All
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > content was
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > exported
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > current site by
> > Bruce
> > > > > > > > already,
> > > > > > > > >> > and now
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > lives
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > under
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > documentation
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > link
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the ActiveMQ 5
> > > > project
> > > > > > > > page.
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's obviously
> > > > still
> > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > >> work
> > > > > > > > >> > to do
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > but I
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > wanted to
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > send now to
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some early
> > feedback
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > >> hopefully
> > > > > > > > >> > get
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > some
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > input
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > content for the
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > home
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pages for each
> > > > project.
> > > > > > > What
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  do need to have
> > > > happen to
> > > > > > > > make
> > > > > > > > >> > this
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > live.
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > I'd
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > prefer not
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > to spend
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > months
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trying to get
> > this
> > > > perfect,
> > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > >> > if we
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > could
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> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > MVP for
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> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > time.
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> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd love to here
> > your
> > > > > > > > thoughts,
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> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> https://github.com/michaelandrepearce/activemq-website/
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And a
> > demohttps://
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > michaelandrepearce.github.io/activemq-website
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards
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> > > > Galaxy
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> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ActiveMQ in Action:
> > > > > > > > >> > http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blog:
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> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <
> > > > http://bruceblog.org/>
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
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> > > > > > > > >> > >> > Blog: http://bsnyder.org/ <http://bruceblog.org/>
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So there is some original svg images in activemq project.These are bit raw unfortunately we found.So back when making console we found that it didnt work well with backgrounds etc, Martyn created a version with an edge and simply we applied a shadow to that. I have the pngs (i think i added these to a dir in the website along with a color pallete varient) but not svgs. Martyn may have those.On phone atm. Will try find tomorrow exactly where we put them. Ill also add up anything i can find from console time. We had some hex backgrounds martyn and i had too we mocked up which were nice. Everything is png though i have.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------From: Robbie Gemmell <[hidden email]> Date: 05/03/2019  18:09  (GMT+00:00) To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Website This seems to be where the original files went:https://github.com/apache/activemq/blob/master/docs/img/I notice now I can read it that the footer should also mention[ActiveMQ] Artemis in the text when listing off terms.RobbieOn Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 17:58, Justin Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:>> I assume some original vector images exist from which the various> individual images were created, but I don't have those so modifying the> images might be tricky. However, I did change the Apache image in the> footer to one that's easier to discern.>> I increased the size of the footer text. The reason it was that small to> begin with is that is what the footer text is like on the existing ActiveMQ> website (although it's even less legible since it blends in with the> background so much).>> Mike, do you have the original images for the new ActiveMQ logo (i.e. the> colored hexagons)?>>> Justin>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 9:50 AM Robbie Gemmell <[hidden email]>> wrote:>> > Thanks Justin, the main things look covered now. Yeah, whimsy is fixed> > to monitoring the live version, I was jsut mainly noting it for> > comparison and perhaps later reference.> >> > Some other small policy + style related comments:> > - TM should be added on the logo images.> > - The top and bottom left images could do with adjusting so that> > 'Apache' is legible.> > - Similarly the footer text is rather tiny, even though the footer> > dwarfs it with a lot of free space.> > - Some of the images appear heavily down sized and could probably be> > tweaked to improve their legibility and optimise for size a bit. E.g> > the ASF logo used at the bottom is actually 3495×1417 resolution and> > 150KB.> > - The bottom ASF logo text isnt that readable against the footer> > background colour.> >> > Robbie> >> > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 17:51, Justin Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:> > >> > > I just updated with some changes to comply with the branding policy. I> > > think that's everything. If you see anything that's been left out please> > > let me know.> > >> > > I don't see a way to make whimsy test the staged version.> > >> > >> > > Justin> > >> > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 9:47 AM Robbie Gemmell <[hidden email]>> > > wrote:> > >> > > > I haven't had a chance to look at the actual content, but from> > > > skimming the index page it looks like there are still tweaks needed to> > > > satisfy various site policies:> > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs> > > >> > > > At least some of these are checked automatically:> > > > https://whimsy.apache.org/site/> > > >> > > > Robbie> > > >> > > > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 14:54, Clebert Suconic <> > [hidden email]>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > This looks ready! What we need to make it official?> > > > >> > > > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 12:53 PM Justin Bertram <[hidden email]>> > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > I added some content to the landing page and pushed it to the> > staging> > > > > > website [1]. In general, I tried to highlight what was true for> > *both*> > > > > > brokers but also distinguish them to make things clear for users.> > > > I've got> > > > > > other content changes ready to push, but I wanted to get this out> > > > first for> > > > > > review & discussion.> > > > > >> > > > > > In case anybody wonders, I removed the big "Used By" section that> > was> > > > > > supposed to be full of company logos for two reasons:> > > > > >   1) I'm not sure we have any concrete data on that.> > > > > >   2) It's not clear to me whether or not we need permission to use> > > > another> > > > > > company's logo on our website and make claims about their use of> > > > ActiveMQ.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Justin> > > > > >> > > > > > [1] http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/> > > > > >> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 9:59 AM Andy Taylor <[hidden email]> > >> > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > > I'd be happy to help with adding content, I remember a hackathon> > was> > > > > > > mentioned at one point.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Any way since it's now in git it would be great if people could> > > > contribute> > > > > > > so we can have a better website sooner rather than later.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Andy> > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 at 17:19, Martyn Taylor <[hidden email]>> > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The site is uploaded and links added.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Note there's currently a sync issue with EU mirrors[1], it's> > > > currently> > > > > > > > being worked on.  To view the changes in the interim, use the> > US> > > > > > > mirror[2].> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Cheers> > > > > > > > Martyn> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 1. https://status.apache.org/> > > > > > > > 2. http://activemq.us.apache.org/> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 4:58 PM Martyn Taylor <> > [hidden email]>> > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I've went ahead and populated the repository, there's a> > GitHub> > > > mirror> > > > > > > > > here[1].  I've also generated the static content and should> > have> > > > the> > > > > > > work> > > > > > > > > in progress hosted under a separately directory and a> > message on> > > > the> > > > > > > > > homepage shortly.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Cheers> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 1. https://github.com/apache/activemq-website> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 8:54 PM Bruce Snyder <> > > > [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> +1> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> Bruce> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 2:26 PM Clebert Suconic <> > > > > > > > >> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> wrote:> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > What about this. WE could :> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> > - commit this on git> > > > > > > > >> > - upload a snapshot for review under our web-site.> > > > > > > > >> > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 8:46 AM Clebert Suconic> > > > > > > > >> > <[hidden email]> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > +1000. We had that options discussed here a few times.> > > > Having the> > > > > > > > old> > > > > > > > >> > website somewhere with a link is the way to go for the> > > > migration.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 7:47 AM michael.andre.pearce <> > > > > > > > >> > [hidden email]> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >> Sounds good to me.> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.> > > > > > > > >> > >> -------- Original message --------From: Martyn Taylor <> > > > > > > > >> > [hidden email]> Date: 22/10/2018  12:38  (GMT+00:00)> > To:> > > > > > > > >> > [hidden email] Subject: Re: Website> > > > > > > > >> > >> How about an equivalent message on the home page of> > the new> > > > > > > > website,> > > > > > > > >> > >> directing users to the old site?> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:39 PM Bruce Snyder <> > > > > > > > >> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > Check out the Camel website and the message that they> > > > posted> > > > > > > > about> > > > > > > > >> > their> > > > > > > > >> > >> > website changes that are underway:> > > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > https://camel.apache.org/> > > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > Bruce> > > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 3:30 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > > > > > > [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 8:38 PM Bruce Snyder <> > > > > > > > >> > [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > Fair points, Martyn. I like the idea of a> > > > combination of> > > > > > > JIRA> > > > > > > > >> > issues> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > plus a> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > list of those issues that is easily visible> > > > somewhere such> > > > > > > as> > > > > > > > >> the> > > > > > > > >> > wiki.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > Seeing as how we are moving the website around> > > > completely,> > > > > > > I> > > > > > > > >> > believe we> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > need to include the docs to support the older> > > > versions in> > > > > > > > some> > > > > > > > >> > way. So,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > first thought that came to mind is a search> > > > capability in> > > > > > > > order> > > > > > > > >> > for> > > > > > > > >> > >> > users> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > to find them easier. Another idea, we could also> > > > keep the> > > > > > > old> > > > > > > > >> site> > > > > > > > >> > >> > intact> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > and available as a sub-domain or URL, e.g.,> > > > > > > > >> > 5x.activemq.apache.org,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > activemq.apache.org/5.x, etc. However, the> > > > advantage of a> > > > > > > > >> search> > > > > > > > >> > >> > feature> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > is> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > that it would be useful across the site, not just> > > > for older> > > > > > > > >> > stuff. We> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > might> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > even be able structure the search to allow users> > to> > > > select> > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > >> > version of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > docs that they would like to search. Anyway, just> > > > some> > > > > > > > >> thoughts.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > I agree that we should try to get the new site> > > > functional> > > > > > > > ASAP,> > > > > > > > >> > but> > > > > > > > >> > >> > that> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > should not eliminate the old site entirely. We> > > > should not> > > > > > > > >> abandon> > > > > > > > >> > users> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > older versions.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > +1 Bruce.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > I had thought that the export of the current site> > into> > > > the> > > > > > > > >> gitbook> > > > > > > > >> > had> > > > > > > > >> > >> > all> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the info, but perhaps there are missing pieces.  I> > > > like the> > > > > > > > idea> > > > > > > > >> of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > keeping> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the old site running and link to it from the new> > > > site.  This> > > > > > > > >> ensures> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > existing users have all the info they need, but> > let's> > > > us move> > > > > > > > >> > forward> > > > > > > > >> > >> > with> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > new content.  Perhaps we can switch out the exiting> > > > home page> > > > > > > > for> > > > > > > > >> > the new> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > one and add a link to old website AMQ project page> > > > ("Existing> > > > > > > > >> users> > > > > > > > >> > >> > looking> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > for the original ActiveMQ website click here.").> > If> > > > we are> > > > > > > > able> > > > > > > > >> to> > > > > > > > >> > get> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > some stats on number of accesses to a particular> > page,> > > > we can> > > > > > > > use> > > > > > > > >> > that> > > > > > > > >> > >> > info> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > to prioritise porting older content.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > Search, feature also a good idea, but I'm not sure> > how> > > > much> > > > > > > > >> effort> > > > > > > > >> > would> > > > > > > > >> > >> > be> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > involved, there is already a search feature in the> > > > gitbook> > > > > > > > >> document> > > > > > > > >> > >> > (linked> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > to on the project page).> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > How about we fill in the existing placeholder> > content> > > > and add> > > > > > > > >> links> > > > > > > > >> > to> > > > > > > > >> > >> > the> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > old sites from each project page (and the home> > page)?> > > > We> > > > > > > could> > > > > > > > >> go> > > > > > > > >> > live> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > with this?  Then start working through the nice to> > > > > > > > >> > haves/criticals.  I> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > think once we're live and the code is available,> > the> > > > > > > community> > > > > > > > >> will> > > > > > > > >> > be> > > > > > > > >> > >> > more> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > inclined to report/fixing issues.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > Cheers> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > Bruce> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 2:44 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > > > > > > >> [hidden email]> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > Cheers gents, looks like we're all set with> > the git> > > > > > > repos.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > Shall we start putting together a ToDo list for> > > > what> > > > > > > needs> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > >> > happen> > > > > > > > >> > >> > to> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > move to the new site?  JIRA perhaps?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > Bruce you mentioned a search feature for older> > > > content.> > > > > > > > Can> > > > > > > > >> you> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > elaborate> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > on this.  Also, there's the actual content for> > the> > > > pages,> > > > > > > > key> > > > > > > > >> > >> > features,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > users etc... Perhaps we can all contribute to> > > > these?  I> > > > > > > > could> > > > > > > > >> > take> > > > > > > > >> > >> > care> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > the Artemis side of things, if people with more> > > > > > > experience> > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > >> > NMS,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > CMS> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > and> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > 5.x could come up with some content for the> > > > project home> > > > > > > > >> pages?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > I agree with Michael in that it'd be good to> > get> > > > the new> > > > > > > > site> > > > > > > > >> > running> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > even> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > if it's not 100% perfect then iteratively> > improve> > > > on it.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > Cheers> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:56 AM Clebert> > Suconic <> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > How to delete one now ?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:55 PM Bruce Snyder <> > > > > > > > >> > >> > [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > Whoops, I just created one as well:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-website.git> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > Bruce> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 8:49 AM Clebert> > Suconic> > > > <> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > New repo created:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-www.git> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:47 AM Clebert> > > > Suconic> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > <[hidden email]> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > Robbie Gemmel pointed me to> > > > > > > > >> https://gitbox.apache.org/> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > I'm trying to create one now:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:36 AM Clebert> > > > Suconic> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > <[hidden email]> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > That's for Bruce Snyder then...> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:29 AM> > Justin> > > > Bertram> > > > > > > <> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > There's a "Create a new Git> > repository"> > > > > > > option> > > > > > > > on> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > https://selfserve.apache.org/.  I> > > > clicked it> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > >> > logged> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > in,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > but> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > apparently> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > it's restricted to ASF members and> > PMC> > > > > > > chairs.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Justin> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:24 AM> > Clebert> > > > > > > Suconic> > > > > > > > <> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I create an Infra JIRA for this:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17124> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:49 AM> > > > Clebert> > > > > > > > Suconic> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > <[hidden email]>> > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I asked infra and no reponse.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know any procedure> > on> > > > > > > creating> > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > >> > repo at> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > apache?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I did ask infra about something> > > > what to> > > > > > > > do..> > > > > > > > >> > but so> > > > > > > > >> > >> > far> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > no> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > response. I> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > know they are busy.. so if> > anyone> > > > here> > > > > > > > knows> > > > > > > > >> a> > > > > > > > >> > better> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > way> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > to> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > handle> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > this....> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:14 AM> > > > Clebert> > > > > > > > >> Suconic> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > <[hidden email]>> > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just initiated a thread at> > > > apache> > > > > > > infra> > > > > > > > >> > list,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > asking> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > for> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > guidance on> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > how to setup things.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > will keep it posted here.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 9:01> > AM> > > > > > > > Christopher> > > > > > > > >> > Shannon> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <> > [hidden email]> > > > >> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for getting the> > website> > > > > > > > discussion> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > restarted.  I> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > think it> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > will be> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quite beneficial if we can> > get> > > > the> > > > > > > new> > > > > > > > >> > website> > > > > > > > >> > >> > live> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > and> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > have> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > more> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > clear> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > information on there such> > as> > > > what> > > > > > > > Artemis> > > > > > > > >> > is,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > etc.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at> > 9:13 AM> > > > > > > Clebert> > > > > > > > >> > Suconic <> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will handle it next> > week.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at> > 5:09> > > > PM> > > > > > > Bruce> > > > > > > > >> > Snyder <> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Clebert,> 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Re: Website

MichaelAndrePearce
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I have some image editing software that works with pngs well so if we need some tweeks im happy to help.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------From: "michael.andre.pearce" <[hidden email]> Date: 05/03/2019  21:22  (GMT+00:00) To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: Website So there is some original svg images in activemq project.These are bit raw unfortunately we found.So back when making console we found that it didnt work well with backgrounds etc, Martyn created a version with an edge and simply we applied a shadow to that. I have the pngs (i think i added these to a dir in the website along with a color pallete varient) but not svgs. Martyn may have those.On phone atm. Will try find tomorrow exactly where we put them. Ill also add up anything i can find from console time. We had some hex backgrounds martyn and i had too we mocked up which were nice. Everything is png though i have.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
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jbertram
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No worries, Mike. I took care of it using the SVG file that Robbie pointed
out. The images now have a "TM" and "Apache" in the smaller versions should
be easier to read.


Justin

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 3:29 PM michael.andre.pearce
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> So there is some original svg images in activemq project.These are bit raw
> unfortunately we found.So back when making console we found that it didnt
> work well with backgrounds etc, Martyn created a version with an edge and
> simply we applied a shadow to that. I have the pngs (i think i added these
> to a dir in the website along with a color pallete varient) but not svgs.
> Martyn may have those.On phone atm. Will try find tomorrow exactly where we
> put them. Ill also add up anything i can find from console time. We had
> some hex backgrounds martyn and i had too we mocked up which were nice.
> Everything is png though i have.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> -------- Original message --------From: Robbie Gemmell <
> [hidden email]> Date: 05/03/2019  18:09  (GMT+00:00) To:
> [hidden email] Subject: Re: Website This seems to be where the
> original files went:
> https://github.com/apache/activemq/blob/master/docs/img/I notice now I
> can read it that the footer should also mention[ActiveMQ] Artemis in the
> text when listing off terms.RobbieOn Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 17:58, Justin
> Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:>> I assume some original vector
> images exist from which the various> individual images were created, but I
> don't have those so modifying the> images might be tricky. However, I did
> change the Apache image in the> footer to one that's easier to discern.>> I
> increased the size of the footer text. The reason it was that small to>
> begin with is that is what the footer text is like on the existing
> ActiveMQ> website (although it's even less legible since it blends in with
> the> background so much).>> Mike, do you have the original images for the
> new ActiveMQ logo (i.e. the> colored hexagons)?>>> Justin>> On Tue, Mar 5,
> 2019 at 9:50 AM Robbie Gemmell <[hidden email]>> wrote:>> >
> Thanks Justin, the main things look covered now. Yeah, whimsy is fixed> >
> to monitoring the live version, I was jsut mainly noting it for> >
> comparison and perhaps later reference.> >> > Some other small policy +
> style related comments:> > - TM should be added on the logo images.> > -
> The top and bottom left images could do with adjusting so that> > 'Apache'
> is legible.> > - Similarly the footer text is rather tiny, even though the
> footer> > dwarfs it with a lot of free space.> > - Some of the images
> appear heavily down sized and could probably be> > tweaked to improve their
> legibility and optimise for size a bit. E.g> > the ASF logo used at the
> bottom is actually 3495×1417 resolution and> > 150KB.> > - The bottom ASF
> logo text isnt that readable against the footer> > background colour.> >> >
> Robbie> >> > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 17:51, Justin Bertram <
> [hidden email]> wrote:> > >> > > I just updated with some changes to
> comply with the branding policy. I> > > think that's everything. If you see
> anything that's been left out please> > > let me know.> > >> > > I don't
> see a way to make whimsy test the staged version.> > >> > >> > > Justin> >
> >> > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 9:47 AM Robbie Gemmell <
> [hidden email]>> > > wrote:> > >> > > > I haven't had a chance
> to look at the actual content, but from> > > > skimming the index page it
> looks like there are still tweaks needed to> > > > satisfy various site
> policies:> > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs> > > >> > >
> > At least some of these are checked automatically:> > > >
> https://whimsy.apache.org/site/> > > >> > > > Robbie> > > >> > > > On
> Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 14:54, Clebert Suconic <> > [hidden email]>>
> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > This looks ready! What we need to make it
> official?> > > > >> > > > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 12:53 PM Justin Bertram <
> [hidden email]>> > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > I added some
> content to the landing page and pushed it to the> > staging> > > > > >
> website [1]. In general, I tried to highlight what was true for> > *both*>
> > > > > > brokers but also distinguish them to make things clear for
> users.> > > > I've got> > > > > > other content changes ready to push, but
> I wanted to get this out> > > > first for> > > > > > review & discussion.>
> > > > > >> > > > > > In case anybody wonders, I removed the big "Used By"
> section that> > was> > > > > > supposed to be full of company logos for two
> reasons:> > > > > >   1) I'm not sure we have any concrete data on that.> >
> > > > >   2) It's not clear to me whether or not we need permission to use>
> > > > another> > > > > > company's logo on our website and make claims
> about their use of> > > > ActiveMQ.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >
> Justin> > > > > >> > > > > > [1]
> http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/> > > > > >> > > > > > On
> Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 9:59 AM Andy Taylor <[hidden email]> > >> > >
> > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > > I'd be happy to help with adding content,
> I remember a hackathon> > was> > > > > > > mentioned at one point.> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Any way since it's now in git it would be great if people
> could> > > > contribute> > > > > > > so we can have a better website sooner
> rather than later.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Andy> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 at 17:19, Martyn Taylor <[hidden email]>> > > >
> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The site is uploaded and links added.> >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Note there's currently a sync issue with EU
> mirrors[1], it's> > > > currently> > > > > > > > being worked on.  To view
> the changes in the interim, use the> > US> > > > > > > mirror[2].> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > Cheers> > > > > > > > Martyn> > > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > 1. https://status.apache.org/> > > > > > > > 2.
> http://activemq.us.apache.org/> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov
> 6, 2018 at 4:58 PM Martyn Taylor <> > [hidden email]>> > > > wrote:>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I've went ahead and populated the
> repository, there's a> > GitHub> > > > mirror> > > > > > > > > here[1].
> I've also generated the static content and should> > have> > > > the> > > >
> > > > work> > > > > > > > > in progress hosted under a separately directory
> and a> > message on> > > > the> > > > > > > > > homepage shortly.> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > Cheers> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 1.
> https://github.com/apache/activemq-website> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 8:54 PM Bruce Snyder <> > > >
> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> +1> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> Bruce> > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > >> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 2:26 PM Clebert Suconic <> > > > > >
> > > >> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> wrote:> > > > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > > > >> > What about this. WE could :> > > > > > > > >> >> > >
> > > > > > >> > - commit this on git> > > > > > > > >> > - upload a snapshot
> for review under our web-site.> > > > > > > > >> > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at
> 8:46 AM Clebert Suconic> > > > > > > > >> > <[hidden email]>
> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > +1000. We had that
> options discussed here a few times.> > > > Having the> > > > > > > > old> >
> > > > > > > >> > website somewhere with a link is the way to go for the> >
> > > migration.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > On Mon, Oct 22,
> 2018 at 7:47 AM michael.andre.pearce <> > > > > > > > >> >
> [hidden email]> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > >
> > > > > >> > >> Sounds good to me.> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >>
> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.> > > >
> > > > > >> > >> -------- Original message --------From: Martyn Taylor <> >
> > > > > > > >> > [hidden email]> Date: 22/10/2018  12:38
> (GMT+00:00)> > To:> > > > > > > > >> > [hidden email] Subject:
> Re: Website> > > > > > > > >> > >> How about an equivalent message on the
> home page of> > the new> > > > > > > > website,> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> directing users to the old site?> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > > >> >
> >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:39 PM Bruce Snyder <> > > > > > > > >>
> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > Check out the Camel website and the message
> that they> > > > posted> > > > > > > > about> > > > > > > > >> > their> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > website changes that are underway:> > > > > > > > >> >
> >> >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > https://camel.apache.org/> > > > > > > > >>
> > >> >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > Bruce> > > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > > >
> > >> > >> > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 3:30 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > > > > > >
> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> >>
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 8:38 PM Bruce Snyder <> >
> > > > > > > >> > [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > Fair points,
> Martyn. I like the idea of a> > > > combination of> > > > > > > JIRA> > > >
> > > > > >> > issues> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > plus a> > > > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > list of those issues that is easily visible> > > > somewhere such>
> > > > > > > as> > > > > > > > >> the> > > > > > > > >> > wiki.> > > > > > >
> > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > Seeing as how we are moving
> the website around> > > > completely,> > > > > > > I> > > > > > > > >> >
> believe we> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > need to include the docs to support
> the older> > > > versions in> > > > > > > > some> > > > > > > > >> > way.
> So,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > first
> thought that came to mind is a search> > > > capability in> > > > > > > >
> order> > > > > > > > >> > for> > > > > > > > >> > >> > users> > > > > > > >
> >> > >> > > > to find them easier. Another idea, we could also> > > > keep
> the> > > > > > > old> > > > > > > > >> site> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> intact> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > and available as a sub-domain or URL,
> e.g.,> > > > > > > > >> > 5x.activemq.apache.org,> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > activemq.apache.org/5.x, etc. However, the> > > > advantage of a> >
> > > > > > > >> search> > > > > > > > >> > >> > feature> > > > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > is> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > that it would be useful across the
> site, not just> > > > for older> > > > > > > > >> > stuff. We> > > > > > >
> > >> > >> > > might> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > even be able structure the
> search to allow users> > to> > > > select> > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > >>
> > version of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> docs that they would like to search. Anyway, just> > > > some> > > > > > >
> > >> thoughts.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > I
> agree that we should try to get the new site> > > > functional> > > > > > >
> > ASAP,> > > > > > > > >> > but> > > > > > > > >> > >> > that> > > > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > should not eliminate the old site entirely. We> > > >
> should not> > > > > > > > >> abandon> > > > > > > > >> > users> > > > > > >
> > >> > >> > > of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > older versions.> > > > > > >
> > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > +1 Bruce.> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > I had thought that the export of the current
> site> > into> > > > the> > > > > > > > >> gitbook> > > > > > > > >> > had>
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > all> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the info, but
> perhaps there are missing pieces.  I> > > > like the> > > > > > > > idea> >
> > > > > > > >> of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > keeping> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> > the old site running and link to it from the new> > > > site.  This> > >
> > > > > > >> ensures> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > existing users have all the
> info they need, but> > let's> > > > us move> > > > > > > > >> > forward> >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > with> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > new content.  Perhaps
> we can switch out the exiting> > > > home page> > > > > > > > for> > > > >
> > > > >> > the new> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > one and add a link to old
> website AMQ project page> > > > ("Existing> > > > > > > > >> users> > > > >
> > > > >> > >> > looking> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > for the original
> ActiveMQ website click here.").> > If> > > > we are> > > > > > > > able> >
> > > > > > > >> to> > > > > > > > >> > get> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > some
> stats on number of accesses to a particular> > page,> > > > we can> > > > >
> > > > use> > > > > > > > >> > that> > > > > > > > >> > >> > info> > > > > >
> > > >> > >> > > to prioritise porting older content.> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > Search, feature also a good idea, but I'm
> not sure> > how> > > > much> > > > > > > > >> effort> > > > > > > > >> >
> would> > > > > > > > >> > >> > be> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > involved,
> there is already a search feature in the> > > > gitbook> > > > > > > > >>
> document> > > > > > > > >> > >> > (linked> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > to on
> the project page).> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> How about we fill in the existing placeholder> > content> > > > and add> >
> > > > > > > >> links> > > > > > > > >> > to> > > > > > > > >> > >> > the> >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > old sites from each project page (and the home> >
> page)?> > > > We> > > > > > > could> > > > > > > > >> go> > > > > > > > >>
> > live> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > with this?  Then start working through
> the nice to> > > > > > > > >> > haves/criticals.  I> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> > > think once we're live and the code is available,> > the> > > > > > >
> community> > > > > > > > >> will> > > > > > > > >> > be> > > > > > > > >> >
> >> > more> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > inclined to report/fixing issues.> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > Cheers> > > > > > > > >> >
> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > Bruce> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018
> at 2:44 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > > > > > > >> [hidden email]> > > > >
> > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > Cheers gents, looks like we're all set
> with> > the git> > > > > > > repos.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > >> > > > > Shall we start putting together a ToDo list for> > >
> > what> > > > > > > needs> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > >> > happen> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > to> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > move to the new
> site?  JIRA perhaps?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > Bruce you mentioned a search feature for older> > > > content.> > >
> > > > > > Can> > > > > > > > >> you> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > elaborate>
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > on this.  Also, there's the actual content
> for> > the> > > > pages,> > > > > > > > key> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> features,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > users etc... Perhaps we can all
> contribute to> > > > these?  I> > > > > > > > could> > > > > > > > >> >
> take> > > > > > > > >> > >> > care> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > of> > > > >
> > > > >> > >> > > > > the Artemis side of things, if people with more> > >
> > > > > experience> > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > >> > NMS,> > > > > > >
> > >> > >> > CMS> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > and> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > 5.x could come up with some content for the> > > > project home> > > >
> > > > > >> pages?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > I agree with Michael in that it'd be good to> > get> > > > the new> > >
> > > > > > site> > > > > > > > >> > running> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> even> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > if it's not 100% perfect then
> iteratively> > improve> > > > on it.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > Cheers> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:56 AM Clebert> > Suconic <> >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > How to delete one now ?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > >> > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:55 PM Bruce Snyder <> > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > Whoops, I just created one as well:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>
> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-website.git> > > > > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > Bruce> > > > > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018
> at 8:49 AM Clebert> > Suconic> > > > <> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > wrote:> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > New repo
> created:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > >
> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-www.git> > > > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:47 AM Clebert> > > > Suconic>
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > <[hidden email]> wrote:> >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >
> Robbie Gemmel pointed me to> > > > > > > > >> https://gitbox.apache.org/>
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> > I'm trying to create one now:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > On
> Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:36 AM Clebert> > > > Suconic> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > > > > <[hidden email]> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > That's for Bruce
> Snyder then...> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018
> at 10:29 AM> > Justin> > > > Bertram> > > > > > > <> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > There's a "Create a new Git> > repository"> > > > > > >
> option> > > > > > > > on> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> https://selfserve.apache.org/.  I> > > > clicked it> > > > > > > > and> >
> > > > > > > >> > logged> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > in,> > > > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > but> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > apparently> > > > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > it's restricted to ASF members and> > PMC> >
> > > > > > chairs.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
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Re: Website

Martyn Taylor-2
I think the latest changes to the home page looks goods.  I still prefer my
strap line of course, but the one currently on there is OK.  I think to go
live with this the project pages need to be fixed up.  The links currently
do not work and the feature list is templated out with mock content only.
I would just remove the templated feature sections and fix the links (and
add a link to the old website from the project pages), then it'd be ready
to go live (Providing it complies with Apache project policies as Robbie
mentioned above, then I think it'd be good to go with these changes).

On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:58 AM Justin Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:

> No worries, Mike. I took care of it using the SVG file that Robbie pointed
> out. The images now have a "TM" and "Apache" in the smaller versions should
> be easier to read.
>
>
> Justin
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 3:29 PM michael.andre.pearce
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > So there is some original svg images in activemq project.These are bit
> raw
> > unfortunately we found.So back when making console we found that it didnt
> > work well with backgrounds etc, Martyn created a version with an edge and
> > simply we applied a shadow to that. I have the pngs (i think i added
> these
> > to a dir in the website along with a color pallete varient) but not svgs.
> > Martyn may have those.On phone atm. Will try find tomorrow exactly where
> we
> > put them. Ill also add up anything i can find from console time. We had
> > some hex backgrounds martyn and i had too we mocked up which were nice.
> > Everything is png though i have.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> > -------- Original message --------From: Robbie Gemmell <
> > [hidden email]> Date: 05/03/2019  18:09  (GMT+00:00) To:
> > [hidden email] Subject: Re: Website This seems to be where the
> > original files went:
> > https://github.com/apache/activemq/blob/master/docs/img/I notice now I
> > can read it that the footer should also mention[ActiveMQ] Artemis in the
> > text when listing off terms.RobbieOn Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 17:58, Justin
> > Bertram <[hidden email]> wrote:>> I assume some original vector
> > images exist from which the various> individual images were created, but
> I
> > don't have those so modifying the> images might be tricky. However, I did
> > change the Apache image in the> footer to one that's easier to
> discern.>> I
> > increased the size of the footer text. The reason it was that small to>
> > begin with is that is what the footer text is like on the existing
> > ActiveMQ> website (although it's even less legible since it blends in
> with
> > the> background so much).>> Mike, do you have the original images for the
> > new ActiveMQ logo (i.e. the> colored hexagons)?>>> Justin>> On Tue, Mar
> 5,
> > 2019 at 9:50 AM Robbie Gemmell <[hidden email]>> wrote:>> >
> > Thanks Justin, the main things look covered now. Yeah, whimsy is fixed> >
> > to monitoring the live version, I was jsut mainly noting it for> >
> > comparison and perhaps later reference.> >> > Some other small policy +
> > style related comments:> > - TM should be added on the logo images.> > -
> > The top and bottom left images could do with adjusting so that> >
> 'Apache'
> > is legible.> > - Similarly the footer text is rather tiny, even though
> the
> > footer> > dwarfs it with a lot of free space.> > - Some of the images
> > appear heavily down sized and could probably be> > tweaked to improve
> their
> > legibility and optimise for size a bit. E.g> > the ASF logo used at the
> > bottom is actually 3495×1417 resolution and> > 150KB.> > - The bottom ASF
> > logo text isnt that readable against the footer> > background colour.>
> >> >
> > Robbie> >> > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 17:51, Justin Bertram <
> > [hidden email]> wrote:> > >> > > I just updated with some changes
> to
> > comply with the branding policy. I> > > think that's everything. If you
> see
> > anything that's been left out please> > > let me know.> > >> > > I don't
> > see a way to make whimsy test the staged version.> > >> > >> > > Justin>
> >
> > >> > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 9:47 AM Robbie Gemmell <
> > [hidden email]>> > > wrote:> > >> > > > I haven't had a chance
> > to look at the actual content, but from> > > > skimming the index page it
> > looks like there are still tweaks needed to> > > > satisfy various site
> > policies:> > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs> > > >> >
> >
> > > At least some of these are checked automatically:> > > >
> > https://whimsy.apache.org/site/> > > >> > > > Robbie> > > >> > > > On
> > Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 14:54, Clebert Suconic <> > [hidden email]
> >>
> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > This looks ready! What we need to make it
> > official?> > > > >> > > > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 12:53 PM Justin
> Bertram <
> > [hidden email]>> > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > I added some
> > content to the landing page and pushed it to the> > staging> > > > > >
> > website [1]. In general, I tried to highlight what was true for> >
> *both*>
> > > > > > > brokers but also distinguish them to make things clear for
> > users.> > > > I've got> > > > > > other content changes ready to push,
> but
> > I wanted to get this out> > > > first for> > > > > > review &
> discussion.>
> > > > > > >> > > > > > In case anybody wonders, I removed the big "Used By"
> > section that> > was> > > > > > supposed to be full of company logos for
> two
> > reasons:> > > > > >   1) I'm not sure we have any concrete data on
> that.> >
> > > > > >   2) It's not clear to me whether or not we need permission to
> use>
> > > > > another> > > > > > company's logo on our website and make claims
> > about their use of> > > > ActiveMQ.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >
> > Justin> > > > > >> > > > > > [1]
> > http://activemq.apache.org/activemq-website/> > > > > >> > > > > > On
> > Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 9:59 AM Andy Taylor <[hidden email]> > >> >
> >
> > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > > I'd be happy to help with adding
> content,
> > I remember a hackathon> > was> > > > > > > mentioned at one point.> > >
> > >
> > > >> > > > > > > Any way since it's now in git it would be great if
> people
> > could> > > > contribute> > > > > > > so we can have a better website
> sooner
> > rather than later.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Andy> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > >
> > On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 at 17:19, Martyn Taylor <[hidden email]>> > > >
> > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The site is uploaded and links
> added.> >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Note there's currently a sync issue with EU
> > mirrors[1], it's> > > > currently> > > > > > > > being worked on.  To
> view
> > the changes in the interim, use the> > US> > > > > > > mirror[2].> > > >
> >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > Cheers> > > > > > > > Martyn> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > >
> > > > 1. https://status.apache.org/> > > > > > > > 2.
> > http://activemq.us.apache.org/> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov
> > 6, 2018 at 4:58 PM Martyn Taylor <> > [hidden email]>> > > > wrote:>
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I've went ahead and populated the
> > repository, there's a> > GitHub> > > > mirror> > > > > > > > > here[1].
> > I've also generated the static content and should> > have> > > > the> >
> > >
> > > > > work> > > > > > > > > in progress hosted under a separately
> directory
> > and a> > message on> > > > the> > > > > > > > > homepage shortly.> > > >
> >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Cheers> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 1.
> > https://github.com/apache/activemq-website> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 8:54 PM Bruce Snyder <> > >
> >
> > [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > >
> >
> > > > > >> +1> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> Bruce> > > > > > > > >>>
> >
> > > > > > > > >> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 2:26 PM Clebert Suconic <> > > >
> > >
> > > > >> [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> wrote:> > > > > > >
> >
> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > What about this. WE could :> > > > > > > > >> >>
> > >
> > > > > > > >> > - commit this on git> > > > > > > > >> > - upload a
> snapshot
> > for review under our web-site.> > > > > > > > >> > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018
> at
> > 8:46 AM Clebert Suconic> > > > > > > > >> > <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > +1000. We had that
> > options discussed here a few times.> > > > Having the> > > > > > > >
> old> >
> > > > > > > > >> > website somewhere with a link is the way to go for the>
> >
> > > > migration.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > On Mon, Oct
> 22,
> > 2018 at 7:47 AM michael.andre.pearce <> > > > > > > > >> >
> > [hidden email]> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > >
> >
> > > > > > >> > >> Sounds good to me.> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > >
> >>
> > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.> > >
> >
> > > > > > >> > >> -------- Original message --------From: Martyn Taylor <>
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > [hidden email]> Date: 22/10/2018  12:38
> > (GMT+00:00)> > To:> > > > > > > > >> > [hidden email] Subject:
> > Re: Website> > > > > > > > >> > >> How about an equivalent message on the
> > home page of> > the new> > > > > > > > website,> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> > directing users to the old site?> > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > > >
> >> >
> > >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:39 PM Bruce Snyder <> > > > > > > > >>
> > [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> wrote:> > > > > > > > >>
> >
> > >>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > Check out the Camel website and the message
> > that they> > > > posted> > > > > > > > about> > > > > > > > >> > their>
> > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > website changes that are underway:> > > > > > > > >>
> >
> > >> >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > https://camel.apache.org/> > > > > > > >
> >>
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > Bruce> > > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > >
> > >
> > > >> > >> > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 3:30 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > > > > >
> >
> > [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> >>
> > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 8:38 PM Bruce Snyder
> <> >
> > > > > > > > >> > [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > Fair
> points,
> > Martyn. I like the idea of a> > > > combination of> > > > > > > JIRA> >
> > >
> > > > > > >> > issues> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > plus a> > > > > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > list of those issues that is easily visible> > > > somewhere
> such>
> > > > > > > > as> > > > > > > > >> the> > > > > > > > >> > wiki.> > > > >
> > >
> > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > Seeing as how we are moving
> > the website around> > > > completely,> > > > > > > I> > > > > > > > >> >
> > believe we> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > need to include the docs to
> support
> > the older> > > > versions in> > > > > > > > some> > > > > > > > >> > way.
> > So,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > first
> > thought that came to mind is a search> > > > capability in> > > > > > > >
> > order> > > > > > > > >> > for> > > > > > > > >> > >> > users> > > > > >
> > >
> > >> > >> > > > to find them easier. Another idea, we could also> > > >
> keep
> > the> > > > > > > old> > > > > > > > >> site> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> > intact> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > and available as a sub-domain or URL,
> > e.g.,> > > > > > > > >> > 5x.activemq.apache.org,> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > activemq.apache.org/5.x, etc. However, the> > > > advantage of a>
> >
> > > > > > > > >> search> > > > > > > > >> > >> > feature> > > > > > > > >>
> >
> > >> > > > is> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > that it would be useful across
> the
> > site, not just> > > > for older> > > > > > > > >> > stuff. We> > > > > >
> >
> > > >> > >> > > might> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > even be able structure
> the
> > search to allow users> > to> > > > select> > > > > > > a> > > > > > > >
> >>
> > > version of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > docs that they would like to search. Anyway, just> > > > some> > > > > >
> >
> > > >> thoughts.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> I
> > agree that we should try to get the new site> > > > functional> > > > >
> > >
> > > ASAP,> > > > > > > > >> > but> > > > > > > > >> > >> > that> > > > > >
> >
> > > >> > >> > > > should not eliminate the old site entirely. We> > > >
> > should not> > > > > > > > >> abandon> > > > > > > > >> > users> > > > >
> > >
> > > >> > >> > > of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > older versions.> > > > > >
> >
> > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > +1 Bruce.> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > I had thought that the export of the
> current
> > site> > into> > > > the> > > > > > > > >> gitbook> > > > > > > > >> >
> had>
> > > > > > > > > >> > >> > all> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > the info, but
> > perhaps there are missing pieces.  I> > > > like the> > > > > > > >
> idea> >
> > > > > > > > >> of> > > > > > > > >> > >> > keeping> > > > > > > > >> >
> >> >
> > > the old site running and link to it from the new> > > > site.  This> >
> >
> > > > > > > >> ensures> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > existing users have all
> the
> > info they need, but> > let's> > > > us move> > > > > > > > >> > forward>
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > with> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > new content.
> Perhaps
> > we can switch out the exiting> > > > home page> > > > > > > > for> > > >
> >
> > > > > >> > the new> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > one and add a link to old
> > website AMQ project page> > > > ("Existing> > > > > > > > >> users> > >
> > >
> > > > > >> > >> > looking> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > for the original
> > ActiveMQ website click here.").> > If> > > > we are> > > > > > > > able>
> >
> > > > > > > > >> to> > > > > > > > >> > get> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > some
> > stats on number of accesses to a particular> > page,> > > > we can> > >
> > >
> > > > > use> > > > > > > > >> > that> > > > > > > > >> > >> > info> > > >
> > >
> > > > >> > >> > > to prioritise porting older content.> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>
> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > Search, feature also a good idea, but I'm
> > not sure> > how> > > > much> > > > > > > > >> effort> > > > > > > > >> >
> > would> > > > > > > > >> > >> > be> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > involved,
> > there is already a search feature in the> > > > gitbook> > > > > > > > >>
> > document> > > > > > > > >> > >> > (linked> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > to
> on
> > the project page).> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > How about we fill in the existing placeholder> > content> > > > and add>
> >
> > > > > > > > >> links> > > > > > > > >> > to> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> the> >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > old sites from each project page (and the home> >
> > page)?> > > > We> > > > > > > could> > > > > > > > >> go> > > > > > > >
> >>
> > > live> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > with this?  Then start working through
> > the nice to> > > > > > > > >> > haves/criticals.  I> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>
> > > > think once we're live and the code is available,> > the> > > > > > >
> > community> > > > > > > > >> will> > > > > > > > >> > be> > > > > > > >
> >> >
> > >> > more> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > inclined to report/fixing issues.>
> > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > Cheers> > > > > > > >
> >> >
> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > Bruce>
> > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018
> > at 2:44 AM Martyn Taylor <> > > > > > > > >> [hidden email]> > > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > Cheers gents, looks like we're all set
> > with> > the git> > > > > > > repos.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >
> > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > Shall we start putting together a ToDo list for> >
> >
> > > what> > > > > > > needs> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > >> > happen>
> > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > to> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > move to the new
> > site?  JIRA perhaps?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>
> > > > > > Bruce you mentioned a search feature for older> > > > content.>
> > >
> > > > > > > Can> > > > > > > > >> you> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> elaborate>
> > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > on this.  Also, there's the actual content
> > for> > the> > > > pages,> > > > > > > > key> > > > > > > > >> > >> >
> > features,> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > users etc... Perhaps we can all
> > contribute to> > > > these?  I> > > > > > > > could> > > > > > > > >> >
> > take> > > > > > > > >> > >> > care> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > of> > >
> > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > the Artemis side of things, if people with more> >
> >
> > > > > > experience> > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > >> > NMS,> > > > > >
> >
> > > >> > >> > CMS> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > and> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> > >
> > > > 5.x could come up with some content for the> > > > project home> > >
> >
> > > > > > >> pages?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> > >
> > > > I agree with Michael in that it'd be good to> > get> > > > the new>
> > >
> > > > > > > site> > > > > > > > >> > running> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > even> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > if it's not 100% perfect then
> > iteratively> > improve> > > > on it.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >
> >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > Cheers> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > >
> >
> > > >> > >> > > > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:56 AM Clebert> > Suconic <>
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >>
> > > >> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >
> >> >
> > > > > > How to delete one now ?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > >
> > >
> > > > >> > >> > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:55 PM Bruce Snyder <> > >
> >
> > > > > > >> > >> > [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> >
> > > Whoops, I just created one as well:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>
> > https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-website.git> > > > > > >
> >
> > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > Bruce> > > > > >
> > >
> > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9,
> 2018
> > at 8:49 AM Clebert> > Suconic> > > > <> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > wrote:> >
> >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > New
> repo
> > created:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=activemq-www.git> > > > > > > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:47 AM Clebert> > > >
> Suconic>
> > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > <[hidden email]> wrote:>
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> >
> > Robbie Gemmel pointed me to> > > > > > > > >> https://gitbox.apache.org/
> >
> > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> >
> > > I'm trying to create one now:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > On
> > Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:36 AM Clebert> > > > Suconic> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>
> > > > > > > > > > <[hidden email]> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > That's for
> Bruce
> > Snyder then...> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9,
> 2018
> > at 10:29 AM> > Justin> > > > Bertram> > > > > > > <> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>
> > > > > > > [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > There's a "Create a new Git> > repository"> > > > > > >
> > option> > > > > > > > on> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > https://selfserve.apache.org/.  I> > > > clicked it> > > > > > > > and>
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > logged> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > in,> > > > > > > > >>
> >
> > >> > > > > but> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > apparently> > > > >
> > >
> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > it's restricted to ASF members and> > PMC>
> >
> > > > > > > chairs.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > >
> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > Justin> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:24 AM> > Clebert> > > > > > >
> > Suconic> > > > > > > > <> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
> > [hidden email]>> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I create an Infra JIRA for this:> > > > > > > > >> >
> >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17124> > > > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:49 AM> > > > Clebert> > >
> >
> > > > > > Suconic> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > <
> > [hidden email]>> > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >
> >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I asked infra
> and
> > no reponse.> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know any procedure> > on> >
> > >
> > > > > creating> > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > >> > repo at> > > > > > >
> >
> > >> > >> > > > > apache?> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> >
> > > > > > > > > I did ask infra about something> > > > what to> > > > > >
> > >
> > do..> > > > > > > > >> > but so> > > > > > > > >> > >> > far> > > > > >
> > >
> > >> > >> > > > no> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > response. I> > > >
> >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > know they are busy.. so if> >
> anyone>
> > > > > here> > > > > > > > knows> > > > > > > > >> a> > > > > > > > >> >
> > better> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > way> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > to>
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > handle> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > this....> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On
> Mon,
> > Oct 8, 2018 at 9:14 AM> > > > Clebert> > > > > > > > >> Suconic> > > > >
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Re: Website

jbertram
I've spent some time working with the Markdown content that Mike generated
from the dump of the old wiki. Instead of using GitBook which rearranges
all the pages into a hierarchical structure I kept the same flat structure
as existed before so that all the old links for any of the main content
still work. I rearranged the NMS and CMS content a bit as those bits were
relatively small and some of it was quite stale and